shipperx: (Spike: It's a big rock)
Read it. Liked it.

But, as a caveat, I've also been a fan of Red Dwarf and Farscape...which is my admission that I'm somewhat amenable to these types of stories.
Read more... )
shipperx: (Spike: It's a big rock)
Read it. Liked it.

But, as a caveat, I've also been a fan of Red Dwarf and Farscape...which is my admission that I'm somewhat amenable to these types of stories.
Read more... )
shipperx: (Spike - Fire and Ice)
Since it's come up in the comments for the web comic, I thought I would post the end of the Lynch Spike Comic. Pages behind the cut )

Text version of the end.:

Took on the Vegas mission because I was sick of playing second banana. Sick of being along for the ride. I wanted to steer the coaster...

... but no one steers the coaster. No one is in control of anything.

Innocents become dangerous. Heroes can turn on a dime. Sometimes evil can do an about face and want to help.

People come into your life. People leave. Everything is changing. Everything is always changing.

Bottom line -- the only thing any one of us is in charge of... is ourselves.





As to how Spike got the bug ship, below the cut )
shipperx: (Spike - Fire and Ice)
Since it's come up in the comments for the web comic, I thought I would post the end of the Lynch Spike Comic. Pages behind the cut )

Text version of the end.:

Took on the Vegas mission because I was sick of playing second banana. Sick of being along for the ride. I wanted to steer the coaster...

... but no one steers the coaster. No one is in control of anything.

Innocents become dangerous. Heroes can turn on a dime. Sometimes evil can do an about face and want to help.

People come into your life. People leave. Everything is changing. Everything is always changing.

Bottom line -- the only thing any one of us is in charge of... is ourselves.





As to how Spike got the bug ship, below the cut )
shipperx: (Spike - Fire and Ice)
Since it's come up in the comments for the web comic, I thought I would post the end of the Lynch Spike Comic. Pages behind the cut )

Text version of the end.:

Took on the Vegas mission because I was sick of playing second banana. Sick of being along for the ride. I wanted to steer the coaster...

... but no one steers the coaster. No one is in control of anything.

Innocents become dangerous. Heroes can turn on a dime. Sometimes evil can do an about face and want to help.

People come into your life. People leave. Everything is changing. Everything is always changing.

Bottom line -- the only thing any one of us is in charge of... is ourselves.





As to how Spike got the bug ship, below the cut )
shipperx: (Default)
[livejournal.com profile] green_maia  was asking about BtVS meta and that brought to mind the old fan-project "Spike Thesis" based on the Watcher named Lydia announcing  "I wrote my thesis on Spike."  At the time, several of us got together and wrote the thesis for her.  Alas, both of the links where it was stored are now defunct.  So I thought I'd poke around yahoogroups and I see that the group is still there, and the files are still there (though I'm not sure whether they were the final product).  I'm wondering whether I should contact Klytemnestra, who I know is still around LJ, and ask if she has the final copy anywhere or whether it's okay to snag the old files.  It seems a shame for all of that to simply evaporate.

And Rahirah has provided the link:  www.scribd.com/doc/16266234/Spike-Thesis  (wonder if I should download and save that somewhere just in case it goes missing).
shipperx: (Default)
[livejournal.com profile] green_maia  was asking about BtVS meta and that brought to mind the old fan-project "Spike Thesis" based on the Watcher named Lydia announcing  "I wrote my thesis on Spike."  At the time, several of us got together and wrote the thesis for her.  Alas, both of the links where it was stored are now defunct.  So I thought I'd poke around yahoogroups and I see that the group is still there, and the files are still there (though I'm not sure whether they were the final product).  I'm wondering whether I should contact Klytemnestra, who I know is still around LJ, and ask if she has the final copy anywhere or whether it's okay to snag the old files.  It seems a shame for all of that to simply evaporate.

And Rahirah has provided the link:  www.scribd.com/doc/16266234/Spike-Thesis  (wonder if I should download and save that somewhere just in case it goes missing).
shipperx: (Default)
[livejournal.com profile] green_maia  was asking about BtVS meta and that brought to mind the old fan-project "Spike Thesis" based on the Watcher named Lydia announcing  "I wrote my thesis on Spike."  At the time, several of us got together and wrote the thesis for her.  Alas, both of the links where it was stored are now defunct.  So I thought I'd poke around yahoogroups and I see that the group is still there, and the files are still there (though I'm not sure whether they were the final product).  I'm wondering whether I should contact Klytemnestra, who I know is still around LJ, and ask if she has the final copy anywhere or whether it's okay to snag the old files.  It seems a shame for all of that to simply evaporate.

And Rahirah has provided the link:  www.scribd.com/doc/16266234/Spike-Thesis  (wonder if I should download and save that somewhere just in case it goes missing).
shipperx: (Default)
:
So, I'm trying to understand the various Allie and Jeanty Q&A's:


*      In the comics we see Twangel cheering on the anti-Slayer crowd, urging his followers to find stuff to turn people against Slayers, turning up the heat on  the persecution of Slayers, and Twangel announcing that he had to do these things in order  'to bring Buffy low' ( to get her super-special super powers), so he beat Satsu  and plays 'general on the sidelines' figure at the 'epic' battle that kills hundreds of Slayers.


*     Then we get the about-face and are told that Twangel hasn't actually harmed anyone.  He's been trying to help (squints really had to see how.  Still have nothing.  We just need to take on faith that without his invisible interference things would have been worse than they are and worse than the unknown alternative... that we also didn't see.)
 
 
*      But we still had that Twangel had to don the mask to 'bring her low' [though apparently, according to the Q&A and Twangle's 'explanation,'  he actually didn't do anything to accomplish that goal and was secretly 'helping' -- in direct opposition to his stated goal (and even though we never see him helping the slayers) ]  in order to bring about Twilight.


*      Except now Jeanty tells us that Twangel didn't know that Twilight meant space-frakking or the death of the world or... well, let's see....

Looks like Angel basically didn't know anything-- not what Twilight was, how it was activated, what it involved, what it meant, or what it did (nothing wrong with volunteering for a mission like that!).  He did, however, know that it was 'better' than the alternative (whatever that was). So, um... he 'knew'  the alternative was 'worse' than the Twilight that he had no understanding of ... because a talking dog told him so.  Makes perfect sense, right?  Who couldn't be persuaded by that?  He's not stupid at all!  And besides, he didn't actually do anything except the helping stuff that we didn't see.


*      So in pursuing the creation of the Twilight  [that he didn't know what it was but had decided  to  'bring about' by doing ... something (though we're not entirely sure what... which is okay because he had no idea what it would be either) ]

Well, anyway, after he did or didn't do whatever it was he thought he needed to do (but he didn't know what he actually needed to do) to bring about Twilight (whatever he thought that might be), we -- and he -- see that it's destroying the world.  So how does he react?  Twangel wants to stay in his special world even though he can see that it's bringing about the end of the world.  He even gives the circular logic of the present universe being replaced, but Scoobs, who are in the world that is being replaced, would be okay... somehow.  In the dead, replaced world that's coming apart at the seams.  

 
Makes perfect sense, right?  (  Huh?  )
 
 
*    And it's only because Buffy was going back to the world, leaving him in Twilight alone, that Angel decided to go back to the world that was being destroyed, that he didn't seem particularly bothered by it being destroyed (because he wasn't willing to help it until Buffy made him do it) but apparently -- we're now told -- he had no idea was going to be destroyed (other than his standing there witnessing its destruction and not caring very much).  In summary, he didn't actually know what 'bringing about Twilight' actually meant, so he didn't actually intend any of what he did (whatever that was that we're still not clear about).  And he did it just 'cause a talking dog told him to.


*    Then we get Twangel being taken over by Twilight so we can be extra doubly sure that he's really, most sincerely not in control over what he does at the end...even though he's not responsible for any of the rest of it either. 

 
So, let me sum up Twangel's 'character arc' of Season 8:

Angel didn't know anything.   He didn't do anything.  And anything he did do or it looks like he did, he's not actually responsible for except for the 'helping' stuff that we didn't see.  But he's gonna feel really bad about... something (not that he did anything, knew anything, or was actually responsible for anything) so feel really bad for the guy, okay? 

Great character arc, huh.


I give you Peggy... )
shipperx: (Spike- Dru - fascination)
In my Bloodsucker Poll, [livejournal.com profile] rahirah's comment led me to respond with a few of my issues with Eric Northman (Am I the only one who laughs a little at Northman = Viking? Just me? *crickets*) Anyway, my issues with True Blood's Eric Northman, let me show you them...

I don't know him, and I don't understand him.

Really, it's just that simple. The actor is good looking. Eric is the anti-Bill Compton which, more often than not, is a really good thing. Eric is a Viking which is totally cool. Eric is hot. But, and here's the thing, Eric is an alien to me.

What do I mean by that? Well, first off, let me say that I haven't read the books. Perhaps this problem doesn't exist in the books. I'm just talking about the TV show and what has been shown to date. Up until now, Eric is opaque. I have no clue what makes him tick: not what he cares about, not what drives him, not what he loves or what he hates. I don't know why he deals 'V' or how he feels about being sheriff. The only thing I know with any certainty is that he cared about his sire. But, other than that, he's kind of a blank slate we can project anything onto. We don't know him well at all. Now, there's nothing particularly wrong with that in the framework of the show. I can easily see having a vampire be an enigmatic, detached character that views humans such as Sookie with the interest of an entomologist studying ants (which is the vibe I get when he stares so intently at her. I don't see love. I don't even see lust. I see an image of meditative 'Hmmmm...' as he looks at something completely foreign to him. Honestly, it's a bit of the same feeling I get when Spike stares at Buffy on the dance floor in School Hard. 'A slayer with friends...' that wasn't in the manual). At any rate, I'm just not going to be particularly fannish about a character that I don't really understand in an emotional way where I cannot figure out their motivation. I tend to become fannish about characters that I can endlessly dissect, ones who give me fodder to figure out why they do what they do, ones who behave according to emotions that I can comprehend... which led me to think of the BtVS episode Fool for Love and to appreciate anew why that episode is truly awesome.

Thoughts on all the things FFL accomplished )
shipperx: (Spike- Dru - fascination)
In my Bloodsucker Poll, [livejournal.com profile] rahirah's comment led me to respond with a few of my issues with Eric Northman (Am I the only one who laughs a little at Northman = Viking? Just me? *crickets*) Anyway, my issues with True Blood's Eric Northman, let me show you them...

I don't know him, and I don't understand him.

Really, it's just that simple. The actor is good looking. Eric is the anti-Bill Compton which, more often than not, is a really good thing. Eric is a Viking which is totally cool. Eric is hot. But, and here's the thing, Eric is an alien to me.

What do I mean by that? Well, first off, let me say that I haven't read the books. Perhaps this problem doesn't exist in the books. I'm just talking about the TV show and what has been shown to date. Up until now, Eric is opaque. I have no clue what makes him tick: not what he cares about, not what drives him, not what he loves or what he hates. I don't know why he deals 'V' or how he feels about being sheriff. The only thing I know with any certainty is that he cared about his sire. But, other than that, he's kind of a blank slate we can project anything onto. We don't know him well at all. Now, there's nothing particularly wrong with that in the framework of the show. I can easily see having a vampire be an enigmatic, detached character that views humans such as Sookie with the interest of an entomologist studying ants (which is the vibe I get when he stares so intently at her. I don't see love. I don't even see lust. I see an image of meditative 'Hmmmm...' as he looks at something completely foreign to him. Honestly, it's a bit of the same feeling I get when Spike stares at Buffy on the dance floor in School Hard. 'A slayer with friends...' that wasn't in the manual). At any rate, I'm just not going to be particularly fannish about a character that I don't really understand in an emotional way where I cannot figure out their motivation. I tend to become fannish about characters that I can endlessly dissect, ones who give me fodder to figure out why they do what they do, ones who behave according to emotions that I can comprehend... which led me to think of the BtVS episode Fool for Love and to appreciate anew why that episode is truly awesome.

Thoughts on all the things FFL accomplished )
shipperx: (Spike- Dru - fascination)
In my Bloodsucker Poll, [livejournal.com profile] rahirah's comment led me to respond with a few of my issues with Eric Northman (Am I the only one who laughs a little at Northman = Viking? Just me? *crickets*) Anyway, my issues with True Blood's Eric Northman, let me show you them...

I don't know him, and I don't understand him.

Really, it's just that simple. The actor is good looking. Eric is the anti-Bill Compton which, more often than not, is a really good thing. Eric is a Viking which is totally cool. Eric is hot. But, and here's the thing, Eric is an alien to me.

What do I mean by that? Well, first off, let me say that I haven't read the books. Perhaps this problem doesn't exist in the books. I'm just talking about the TV show and what has been shown to date. Up until now, Eric is opaque. I have no clue what makes him tick: not what he cares about, not what drives him, not what he loves or what he hates. I don't know why he deals 'V' or how he feels about being sheriff. The only thing I know with any certainty is that he cared about his sire. But, other than that, he's kind of a blank slate we can project anything onto. We don't know him well at all. Now, there's nothing particularly wrong with that in the framework of the show. I can easily see having a vampire be an enigmatic, detached character that views humans such as Sookie with the interest of an entomologist studying ants (which is the vibe I get when he stares so intently at her. I don't see love. I don't even see lust. I see an image of meditative 'Hmmmm...' as he looks at something completely foreign to him. Honestly, it's a bit of the same feeling I get when Spike stares at Buffy on the dance floor in School Hard. 'A slayer with friends...' that wasn't in the manual). At any rate, I'm just not going to be particularly fannish about a character that I don't really understand in an emotional way where I cannot figure out their motivation. I tend to become fannish about characters that I can endlessly dissect, ones who give me fodder to figure out why they do what they do, ones who behave according to emotions that I can comprehend... which led me to think of the BtVS episode Fool for Love and to appreciate anew why that episode is truly awesome.

Thoughts on all the things FFL accomplished )

Vid Post

Mar. 17th, 2010 09:58 pm
shipperx: (Being Human Trio)
Vidpost of things that made me squee. (I don't vid. These are others vids off Youtube).

Comic!Wank has made it easy to forget what made Spuffy compelling. So here:


And if Twangel makes you go "Who the Hell is This?" Angel in his own show


And Season 2 Being Human was awesome!


And since I saw a post regarding it today. Farscape was awesome too.


And Aeryn Sun one of the best heroines to date!

Vid Post

Mar. 17th, 2010 09:58 pm
shipperx: (Being Human Trio)
Vidpost of things that made me squee. (I don't vid. These are others vids off Youtube).

Comic!Wank has made it easy to forget what made Spuffy compelling. So here:


And if Twangel makes you go "Who the Hell is This?" Angel in his own show


And Season 2 Being Human was awesome!


And since I saw a post regarding it today. Farscape was awesome too.


And Aeryn Sun one of the best heroines to date!

Vid Post

Mar. 17th, 2010 09:58 pm
shipperx: (Being Human Trio)
Vidpost of things that made me squee. (I don't vid. These are others vids off Youtube).

Comic!Wank has made it easy to forget what made Spuffy compelling. So here:


And if Twangel makes you go "Who the Hell is This?" Angel in his own show


And Season 2 Being Human was awesome!


And since I saw a post regarding it today. Farscape was awesome too.


And Aeryn Sun one of the best heroines to date!
shipperx: (Fanfic: Disturbing)
Okay, have read about the current issue and Allie wankage du jour.

Re: the state of the Whedonverse, let me quote AtS's Gunn:

"Don't tell us there's no where to go but up because the truth is there's always more down."

::Reads quote::

Nods. Sums up the comics nicely.
shipperx: (Lost: Prettiest)
Old ship wars never die, they just repeat themselves. Endlessly. And in entirely new reiterations (which isn't as much of an oxymoron as you'd think!)

Who knows why we ship certain fictional couples. It has a lot to do with what entertains us, what intrigues us, what we think is hot, what we think could be interesting, what... Actually there are a lot of possible whats. It doesn't really matter what fic kink is the root of our attraction. Everyone is allowed theirs.

Not everyone feels the same way about these things. That's life... and love. It's only when people start to be judgmental about it that ship wars break out. Now, I admit there have been some fics that make me scratch my head and wonder "what the freaking hell?" And there have even been a few fics that make me want to reach for brain bleach to erase the memory of them (one particularly -- epically -- bizarre Supernatural fic I ran into once falls into that category.) But, you know, since they weren't my thing, I didn't spend a whole heck of a lot of time complaining about them or complaining about the way others spent their free time writing fic about stuff that doesn't happen to interest me. It only needed to interest them to be sufficient reason for the creation of fanfic.

There have been/are some fairly popular ships in many fandoms that I don't 'get.' I remember back in my X-Files fandom days, Krycek/Mulder was a hugely popular ship that I just. did. not. understand (beyond the obvious that Nic Lea and David Duchovny were incredibly, freaking hot. I was perplexed not dead). But I would always return to the sticking point of "Krycek murdered Mulder's father!" Same thing would happen to me when Krycek/Scully fic would pop up. I would wonder, 'but, wait, he murdered Scully's sister...') Still, you know, in all my not feeling the ships, I don't think I ever once wrote a screed saying I was viscerally horrified when Krycek/Mulder smut or Krycek/Scully smut popped up on Gossamer or Ephemeral. I would've thought that it would be pointless, silly, and possibly offensive to some authors if I posited that fans had no businesss writing or at least were morally questionable for writing such fics or how bothered I was to see it show up on general fandom comms! Mainly I didn't write such things because I didn't feel that way. My feelings were more easily categorized as a puzzled head tilt and a 'huh' before moving on to the Scully/Mulder MSR that I was watching the list for. (And I had a serious issues with the now departed fic comm mod (Not Ephemeral or Gossamer) that up and forbade Doggett fic -- not just Doggett/Scully fic but any mention of Doggett at all...because she felt it somehow in some inexplicable way threatened her ship. I thought the attitude was absurd and quit the comm over that display of 'how dare people ship stuff that I don't ship!' entitlement.) People's interests vary. Not everyone likes what I like or vice versa. No one need explain themselves to me.

Why can't it be that simple?

There have been/are canon and fanon ships in a number of fandoms that don't do a damn thing for me. There's a huge shipping faction in True Blood that falls into that category. I understand why some people ship it, but I just... don't. Just today I ran across a post in a Being Human comm of "Why aren't there more Mitchell/Annie fics?" which took me by surprise, not because anything was wrong with it but just because it never crossed my mind to ship Mitchell/Annie in the first place. I have friends that ship couples that I just shake my head, puzzled over what the attraction could be, because it doesn't interest me. Heck, in one (relatively popular) canon/fanon pairing in a non-BtVS fandom, I cannot manage to like the characters individually, making it doubly difficult to understand why there are people who ship them together. But, you know what? It doesn't matter. There's nothing wrong with either of us. It's just a matter of preference. Not everyone likes the same thing.

Where fic is concerned there are a near endless list of things that can be done with any ship. There are good, thought provoking, and engaging fics that can be constructed out of just about any pairing if the writer is talented and interested enough. And sometimes the writer's preference and the reader's preference hits that sweet spot of perfect agreement. When that happens, whee!!!

But proclaiming "thou shalt not write X+Y fic (or X+X or Y+Y) because I don't like it" or that "You are only permitted to write X+Y fic (or X+X or Y+Y) under a the conditions I specify and consider to be acceptable" is sadly common and completely ridiculous. Fanfic is made for fans to enjoy. If you aren't a fan of the ship, move the heck along. The fic isn't meant for you. Proclaiming that someone else can't/shouldn't write whatever ship they like because it doesn't float your boat? Out of line.

Now, someone point me to some "how could you write that?!" OTPp penguin fic! Hee! >:)

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