shipperx: (GOT Dany)
shipperx ([personal profile] shipperx) wrote2014-02-17 09:16 am
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New GOT Trailer!

Squee!  Looks awesome!

[identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com 2014-02-17 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure the marriage will stand in the Bookverse - and store up problems for the future.

[identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com 2014-02-17 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Someday we'll get the next book and find out what happens to Sansa. Someday.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Write like the wind, GRRMartin!

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there always seemed to be something of a shoe not dropped on that score. It's going to have something to do with the denouement.

[identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it will be the threat to the happyish ending.
Tyrion with Casterley Rock (as last Lion standing and Hand) married to Sansa, heiress to Riverun (after Stoneheart takes out Edmure and the Freyspawn) and their offspring becomes as very overmighty subject, dangerously close to the throne and GOT's Warwick the Kingmaker.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That sort of depends on whether it's John Snow or Dany who ends up ruling Westeros (I feel almost bad about never giving Stannis a shot at it but... nah. It's going to be Dany or John.)

[identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Dynastic marriage. The Tudor solution to the knot.
Jon as King, as L+R=J Dany as Queen.
Only taking a joint monarchy model like Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile, rather than a Henry VII Elizabeth of York model.

Tyrion as Hand.

And I think that Riverrun is the least Sansa ends the story with. I think it is very likely she also gets The Erie though a very short lived marriage and Harrenhall, though Kat's mother, who was a Went - and they're another house out of heirs.
Which would make her offspring even more potentially dangerous to the restored Targ line once the dragons die out again. If they survive the books.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Well Targaryen = Tudor to Stark's York and Lannister Lancaster.

For some reason it amuses me to think of Dany as Henry Tudor.

[identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Last branch of her line, assuming Aegon is a mummer, like Henry.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
So Jaime is gonna have a redemptive death, huh? (Actually I've long been convinced that he's going to be the one to take out Cersei).

[identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's his best hope at this point, I think.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, actually, I tend to think of Jaime/Brienne being given 'an honorable end*' (She may live, heading up the King's/Queen's Guard. Seriously doubt that he will survive, though.)

And by 'honorable' I mean in his own and in Brienne's eyes. He may be yet another "King"(or rather Cersei as Queen) Slayer, with a name forever blackened in public but Brienne seeing the honor of it.

[identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's very likely. I agree.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I also tend to think the Wildling subplot (with their outlying hints of quasi-democracy) are going to lead, at some future date, to some sort of Magna Carta-like resolution.

[identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com 2014-02-18 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
A Magna Carta is likely, but I suspect given under less duress. But in this world that was more than 400 years before the Wars of the Roses and Parliament not that much younger and we still had the WotR and Hundred Years War against the French. And even in the 1200's there was the basis for both with charters and boroughs with rights and commerce, whose participants want a say in how they're governed. Westeros is incredibly behind economically and socially in this respect.