New GOT Trailer!

[shipperx]

Squee!  Looks awesome!

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[mrs-underhill.livejournal.com]

Red Woman in Arya's list! Interesting...
And White Walker got new spiffy clothes.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I'm wondering whether Sandor will continue to appear on her list as he did in the book. (I always kind of wanted it a bit more highlighted that he had more or less worked his way off of her kill list.)

[eilowyn.livejournal.com]

I just showed this to my dad.

I think he's a Tyrion/Sansa shipper.

I don't know how I feel about this.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

In the books Tyrion was only 28. With Dinklage being 40+ and Sophie being 17, though, my mind simply cannot go there.

[eilowyn.livejournal.com]

Umm . . . yeah. But he was all "Tyrion's gonna save Sansa!" and "Tyrion's the hero!" and he was shipping and I just didn't want to break his heart by telling him it's creepy!

[shapinglight]

:Shiver:

They chose the perfect song to set that to.

ETA: Are those wraith things still riding towards the Wall? They've been doing that since the end of season 2.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure the marriage will stand in the Bookverse - and store up problems for the future.

[eilowyn.livejournal.com]

Someday we'll get the next book and find out what happens to Sansa. Someday.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Where things left off (bookwise), I'm just worried about Tyrion saving Penny. Penny has "dead meat" written all over her innocence.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Yeah, there always seemed to be something of a shoe not dropped on that score. It's going to have something to do with the denouement.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Write like the wind, GRRMartin!

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Heh. They are really slow riders. Give 'em a break, they mostly have dead horses. ;P

[paratti.livejournal.com]

I think it will be the threat to the happyish ending.
Tyrion with Casterley Rock (as last Lion standing and Hand) married to Sansa, heiress to Riverun (after Stoneheart takes out Edmure and the Freyspawn) and their offspring becomes as very overmighty subject, dangerously close to the throne and GOT's Warwick the Kingmaker.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

It's the wrong kind of snow - there's delays reported on the line.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Although I will say that there's an argument going on over at Winteriscoming as to who/what is the rider. I'm actually on the fence re: the possibilities. Could go either way.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

That sort of depends on whether it's John Snow or Dany who ends up ruling Westeros (I feel almost bad about never giving Stannis a shot at it but... nah. It's going to be Dany or John.)

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

So Jaime is gonna have a redemptive death, huh? (Actually I've long been convinced that he's going to be the one to take out Cersei).

[paratti.livejournal.com]

Dynastic marriage. The Tudor solution to the knot.
Jon as King, as L+R=J Dany as Queen.
Only taking a joint monarchy model like Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile, rather than a Henry VII Elizabeth of York model.

Tyrion as Hand.

And I think that Riverrun is the least Sansa ends the story with. I think it is very likely she also gets The Erie though a very short lived marriage and Harrenhall, though Kat's mother, who was a Went - and they're another house out of heirs.
Which would make her offspring even more potentially dangerous to the restored Targ line once the dragons die out again. If they survive the books.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

She'll only live if they shag and Tyrion later finds out she's the result of what he last did to Tysha.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

It's his best hope at this point, I think.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Brain bleech! Brain bleech!

(Wasn't her brother older than her, though?)

And if she dies, I sort of fear how dark Tyrion will go. She's a bit like Dawn being Buffy's humanity. At this point, Penny is Tyrion's humanity.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Yeah, actually, I tend to think of Jaime/Brienne being given 'an honorable end*' (She may live, heading up the King's/Queen's Guard. Seriously doubt that he will survive, though.)

And by 'honorable' I mean in his own and in Brienne's eyes. He may be yet another "King"(or rather Cersei as Queen) Slayer, with a name forever blackened in public but Brienne seeing the honor of it.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I also tend to think the Wildling subplot (with their outlying hints of quasi-democracy) are going to lead, at some future date, to some sort of Magna Carta-like resolution.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

Given away or sold to a circus family by the brothel keeper once she was born a dwarf and was never told?

As long as Tyrion doesn't jump to save her and come back wrong. I can't go through that again. Buty, yep, he's some dark to wade through yet.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

That's very likely. I agree.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

A Magna Carta is likely, but I suspect given under less duress. But in this world that was more than 400 years before the Wars of the Roses and Parliament not that much younger and we still had the WotR and Hundred Years War against the French. And even in the 1200's there was the basis for both with charters and boroughs with rights and commerce, whose participants want a say in how they're governed. Westeros is incredibly behind economically and socially in this respect.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Well Targaryen = Tudor to Stark's York and Lannister Lancaster.

For some reason it amuses me to think of Dany as Henry Tudor.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

Last branch of her line, assuming Aegon is a mummer, like Henry.

[shapinglight]

:)