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You know how sometimes you see a kerfuffle and end up following it just because the kerfuffle itself is interesting? I can't seem to stop myself from following the Joss Vs. Chud.com Guy kerfuffle.

It started with Chud.com writing "Requiem for a Browncoat" here:
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=4581

Joss shot back with a response on Whedonesque.
Posted: 03 Oct 2005 10:20 am

So I was flouncing (that's lurking but fancier) about WHEDONESQUE (for which I have forgotten my password yet again) and I couldn't help but see the little CHUD.com hate-bomb that Devin wrote. I don't mind that he doesn't love the film, but things like "It failed in a big way" and "It's over" are about as charming -- and journalistic -- as "I was right." I am being totally realistic when I say the weekend grosses did not meet expectations -- but those expectations were based on models that don't apply to this situation because, seriously, nothing does. The industry is not calling this a failure, just a slightly soft version of a normal opening in a generally weak weekend.

Now I did meet Devin, and he's not a dumb guy. But he seems to have a real animus against you Browncoats, and that's the thing I wanted to comment on, 'cause that doesn't sit well with me. He actually blames you guys for making sci-fi fans stay away from the movie. Says you should be ashamed for having adopted a name, that you will start finger-pointing and bickering now that you've 'caused' the 'failure' of your film. He blames other things as well -- the title, the ads -- but that's fine. If one --ONE -- of you guys reads that column and takes it to heart I'll not sleep. You guys did an amazing thing this weekend -- and the exit polls showed how much you guys were out there, and how much business you dragged in with you.

Not to mention everything you did for the months - sorry, YEARS -- before it opened. I'm crazy proud of you. Yes, there is an exclusionary element to some fandom that is inevitable, but this group has fought that as well or better as any, and maybe I'm a nerd, but being compared to a Trekker (or even a TrekkIE) doesn't offend me a bit.

We all know this remains an uphill battle. We all know that next weekend is crucial -- and a lot of it will rest on us. A lot will rest on the studio reaching people we can't. And factors we can't see coming. But I don't especially appreciate people calling Time of Death while I'm still operating. I don't like smug defeatism. And nobody disses the 'coats without me wading in. That's all.


Chud.com responded with this:
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=4590

Online "debating" followed as evidenced by Fandom_wank here:
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/811243.html

Another site weighed into the fray here:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=3&entry_id=1077#readmore

AICN apparently shut down review responses until "this browncoat nonsense blows over" (whatever that means.) here:
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21451

and apparently some of the AICN in-fighting took place here:
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21439

And, finally, Chud.com guy addressed his Serenity mail here:
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=4611
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