Bring the love not the Spike hate

Can someone explain to me the sudden influx of 'let's analyze Spike fans' essays? What has suddenly caused a new wave of 'teh ev0l rappist lover' crap? I just ran across the third mention of such a post today!

This isn't some 'waah! They're hating on my fandom' thing. Well, okay, maybe a little, but I got over being tetchy about being a Spike fan a very long time ago. It's just... isn't it sort of weird for so many of this particular type of essay to pop up today? What started this wave of 'Oh, the dimwitted, delusional Spike lovers and their inability to accept Spike's unredeemable, unheroic nature? Those Spuffies are destroying our children!" (As opposed to the time when we destroyed all of television. Hee!)

So what's up? Spike is evil and liking him corrupts young girls, is anti-feminist, and purely hormonal. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yawn. (Or as kellyhk and nirvana_1 would remind me, ' Arf! Fucking, Arf!' [ because that shit will never stop being funny and never fails to place things in perfect perspective.] ) I'm simply curious. I wouldn't even know about these essays other than having seen a few posts mentioning them (and having one of the fic/meta rec groups that I'm on rec a "let's analyze Spike fans" essay.)

I mean, guys, seriously, the show is over. It has been over for quite some time now. Nothing is going to change by beating this poor dead horse. Different fans saw the whole mess very, very differently. Fan factions didn't agree. Fan factions don't agree. Fan factions will never agree and... why fight it? Why feel the need to endlessly come up with scenarios for "aren't the Spike fans deluded/nuts/neurotic/whatever?"

The story is over. It ended where it did. We deal with it however we like. All that's left is fanfic, fandom, a few comics, and some craptastic tie-in novels. And the fantastic thing about fanfic is that there's room for everyone. Bangels don't have to like what Spuffies like. Bangels can have their corner of fandom and all the fanfic they want. Xander fans who hate Spike don't have to read about Spike (unless they're Spander fans, in which case they can read as much about Spike as they wish). Fanfactions should be able to co-exist, even if it means keeping a discrete distance from one another. Why poke the other fandoms with sticks?

Read what you love and love it. Leave what you hate alone. And, really, publicly psychoanalyzing other fanfactions (years after the fact no less) just because they don't agree with your viewpoint is kind of tacky.

No one's minds are going to be changed at this late date. Positions became intractable quite some time ago. The debates are tired. The bashing is boring. And the whole "but Spike is teh evol! He is! He is!" is fruitless. If your Spike is evil, go find evil Spike fanfic, kill him off in fanfic. Show why he’s a no good, rotten scoundrel who should be shunned, mocked, or utterly ignored. Fanfic is plentiful and free. Why feel the need to say that some other fandom shouldn't be allowed to have their views as well?

Tolerance. It's a good thing.

Oh well, I know people arguing the unredeemability of Spike and the neuroses and idiocy of his fans most probably are not reading my LJ anyway (And yay for that.) I just felt a momentary need to vent with "get the hell over it!" Hate Spike if you must, but it's really irritating to continue bashing fanfactions for existing. People see things differently. That's life. That's what happens with most stories and most characters. Not everyone will agree. If that can't be accepted, then I think there are greater problems than Spike lovers.

BTW, again I ask, what brought this on? It seems very out of the blue to me. Did Seeing Red just air on FX or something? Is this collateral damage from the Rescue Me’ fiasco? I don't get it.

Oh well, screw it. I'm still on a writercon high and full of multi-fandom love. Grown-ups realize that we all don't have to love the exact same things. Not only is that okay, it makes things interesting (and provides lots and lots of fic).

Lalala! Going back to writing Spike-loving fic now.

Bring the love not the Spike hate

Can someone explain to me the sudden influx of 'let's analyze Spike fans' essays? What has suddenly caused a new wave of 'teh ev0l rappist lover' crap? I just ran across the third mention of such a post today!

This isn't some 'waah! They're hating on my fandom' thing. Well, okay, maybe a little, but I got over being tetchy about being a Spike fan a very long time ago. It's just... isn't it sort of weird for so many of this particular type of essay to pop up today? What started this wave of 'Oh, the dimwitted, delusional Spike lovers and their inability to accept Spike's unredeemable, unheroic nature? Those Spuffies are destroying our children!" (As opposed to the time when we destroyed all of television. Hee!)

So what's up? Spike is evil and liking him corrupts young girls, is anti-feminist, and purely hormonal. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yawn. (Or as kellyhk and nirvana_1 would remind me, ' Arf! Fucking, Arf!' [ because that shit will never stop being funny and never fails to place things in perfect perspective.] ) I'm simply curious. I wouldn't even know about these essays other than having seen a few posts mentioning them (and having one of the fic/meta rec groups that I'm on rec a "let's analyze Spike fans" essay.)

I mean, guys, seriously, the show is over. It has been over for quite some time now. Nothing is going to change by beating this poor dead horse. Different fans saw the whole mess very, very differently. Fan factions didn't agree. Fan factions don't agree. Fan factions will never agree and... why fight it? Why feel the need to endlessly come up with scenarios for "aren't the Spike fans deluded/nuts/neurotic/whatever?"

The story is over. It ended where it did. We deal with it however we like. All that's left is fanfic, fandom, a few comics, and some craptastic tie-in novels. And the fantastic thing about fanfic is that there's room for everyone. Bangels don't have to like what Spuffies like. Bangels can have their corner of fandom and all the fanfic they want. Xander fans who hate Spike don't have to read about Spike (unless they're Spander fans, in which case they can read as much about Spike as they wish). Fanfactions should be able to co-exist, even if it means keeping a discrete distance from one another. Why poke the other fandoms with sticks?

Read what you love and love it. Leave what you hate alone. And, really, publicly psychoanalyzing other fanfactions (years after the fact no less) just because they don't agree with your viewpoint is kind of tacky.

No one's minds are going to be changed at this late date. Positions became intractable quite some time ago. The debates are tired. The bashing is boring. And the whole "but Spike is teh evol! He is! He is!" is fruitless. If your Spike is evil, go find evil Spike fanfic, kill him off in fanfic. Show why he’s a no good, rotten scoundrel who should be shunned, mocked, or utterly ignored. Fanfic is plentiful and free. Why feel the need to say that some other fandom shouldn't be allowed to have their views as well?

Tolerance. It's a good thing.

Oh well, I know people arguing the unredeemability of Spike and the neuroses and idiocy of his fans most probably are not reading my LJ anyway (And yay for that.) I just felt a momentary need to vent with "get the hell over it!" Hate Spike if you must, but it's really irritating to continue bashing fanfactions for existing. People see things differently. That's life. That's what happens with most stories and most characters. Not everyone will agree. If that can't be accepted, then I think there are greater problems than Spike lovers.

BTW, again I ask, what brought this on? It seems very out of the blue to me. Did Seeing Red just air on FX or something? Is this collateral damage from the Rescue Me’ fiasco? I don't get it.

Oh well, screw it. I'm still on a writercon high and full of multi-fandom love. Grown-ups realize that we all don't have to love the exact same things. Not only is that okay, it makes things interesting (and provides lots and lots of fic).

Lalala! Going back to writing Spike-loving fic now.

Bring the love not the Spike hate

Can someone explain to me the sudden influx of 'let's analyze Spike fans' essays? What has suddenly caused a new wave of 'teh ev0l rappist lover' crap? I just ran across the third mention of such a post today!

This isn't some 'waah! They're hating on my fandom' thing. Well, okay, maybe a little, but I got over being tetchy about being a Spike fan a very long time ago. It's just... isn't it sort of weird for so many of this particular type of essay to pop up today? What started this wave of 'Oh, the dimwitted, delusional Spike lovers and their inability to accept Spike's unredeemable, unheroic nature? Those Spuffies are destroying our children!" (As opposed to the time when we destroyed all of television. Hee!)

So what's up? Spike is evil and liking him corrupts young girls, is anti-feminist, and purely hormonal. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yawn. (Or as kellyhk and nirvana_1 would remind me, ' Arf! Fucking, Arf!' [ because that shit will never stop being funny and never fails to place things in perfect perspective.] ) I'm simply curious. I wouldn't even know about these essays other than having seen a few posts mentioning them (and having one of the fic/meta rec groups that I'm on rec a "let's analyze Spike fans" essay.)

I mean, guys, seriously, the show is over. It has been over for quite some time now. Nothing is going to change by beating this poor dead horse. Different fans saw the whole mess very, very differently. Fan factions didn't agree. Fan factions don't agree. Fan factions will never agree and... why fight it? Why feel the need to endlessly come up with scenarios for "aren't the Spike fans deluded/nuts/neurotic/whatever?"

The story is over. It ended where it did. We deal with it however we like. All that's left is fanfic, fandom, a few comics, and some craptastic tie-in novels. And the fantastic thing about fanfic is that there's room for everyone. Bangels don't have to like what Spuffies like. Bangels can have their corner of fandom and all the fanfic they want. Xander fans who hate Spike don't have to read about Spike (unless they're Spander fans, in which case they can read as much about Spike as they wish). Fanfactions should be able to co-exist, even if it means keeping a discrete distance from one another. Why poke the other fandoms with sticks?

Read what you love and love it. Leave what you hate alone. And, really, publicly psychoanalyzing other fanfactions (years after the fact no less) just because they don't agree with your viewpoint is kind of tacky.

No one's minds are going to be changed at this late date. Positions became intractable quite some time ago. The debates are tired. The bashing is boring. And the whole "but Spike is teh evol! He is! He is!" is fruitless. If your Spike is evil, go find evil Spike fanfic, kill him off in fanfic. Show why he’s a no good, rotten scoundrel who should be shunned, mocked, or utterly ignored. Fanfic is plentiful and free. Why feel the need to say that some other fandom shouldn't be allowed to have their views as well?

Tolerance. It's a good thing.

Oh well, I know people arguing the unredeemability of Spike and the neuroses and idiocy of his fans most probably are not reading my LJ anyway (And yay for that.) I just felt a momentary need to vent with "get the hell over it!" Hate Spike if you must, but it's really irritating to continue bashing fanfactions for existing. People see things differently. That's life. That's what happens with most stories and most characters. Not everyone will agree. If that can't be accepted, then I think there are greater problems than Spike lovers.

BTW, again I ask, what brought this on? It seems very out of the blue to me. Did Seeing Red just air on FX or something? Is this collateral damage from the Rescue Me’ fiasco? I don't get it.

Oh well, screw it. I'm still on a writercon high and full of multi-fandom love. Grown-ups realize that we all don't have to love the exact same things. Not only is that okay, it makes things interesting (and provides lots and lots of fic).

Lalala! Going back to writing Spike-loving fic now.