Lost - Upon Further Reflection

[shipperx]

I have questions. (Yeah, I know. Who doesn't?)  But...
Where are they? I mean, I know we're seeing an alternate universe, but is it really, really an alternate universe? As in entirely separate from the one before, or is it the same universe rebooted and the island is a bubble inside/outside [dr who]timey-wimey[/dr who] bubble inside it?

Did the nuclear bomb go off in 1977 then sink the island, and everything from that point in time is different, but those on the island -- and the island itself -- because it had moved in time and space before continue to exist so although they have dopplegangers/their real selves up there on flight 815, the Lostaways are, in fact, in the same universe?

Okay, I've got a headache.

I'm just wondering if the two selves can meet? If it's just after Desmond blew up the hatch... could Sawyer walk across the island to Otherton and meet a Juliet who had never met him? Could Alt_Sun cross paths with Ur_Sun's child? (And how hella pissed should Jin and Sun be if Jack negated their daughter's complete existence?!)

Or are these two decidedly different universes and in the Ur one, everything continued exactly the same and we're only glimpsing one where everything happened differently?

Don't worry. I don't expect anyone to have answers. Hell, I don't expect the show to have particularly definitive answers. But... yeah... it's something I'm thinking about.

And Cuse and Lindelhof gave a post-episode QandA to EW  (spoilers for last night's episodes) And I liked the theory someone had in the comments that   Juliet's dying non-sequitor about going out for coffee with Sawyer is correct and that this was the way that she knew 'it worked'.  Her non-sequitor was the 'other life.') 

Comments

[2maggie2.livejournal.com]

I resolutely avoid thinking plotty thoughts about Lost. I just go for the ride.

But about what Jack was up to -- I hate that nobody called him on it. Sun's kid is erased. Sawyer loses his character growth, as does Kate (such as it was). Locke is back in a wheelchair. Charlie is still going to die but now for no good reason at all. I'd hate Jack's choice to be validated. (Though if it is validated the theory you gave about coffee works for me!)

Off to read the q&a.

[txvoodoo.livejournal.com]

I'm thinking at some point the threads will be joined together.

[rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com]

I'm not 100% sure what triggered the alt but let's say for the sake of argument that it was the bomb going off or some fallout from the electromagnetic event not being concluded in the way it had been previously. If that event only affected the past starting from the moment that the plane crashed, then the characters wouldn't behave any differently prior to the moment of the crash. But since everything was different on the plane (no one acted in quite the same way, Shannon wasn't on the plane, Desmond was, etc.), it seems to me that maybe it altered the past starting in 1977 for these characters so that their experiences are different in key ways than that of the Losties.

I think somehow there can be a connection between the two verses since Jack seemed to perceive something was different (checking in the mirror, feeling as if he had met Desmond before) and since Juliet may have had a similar type of experience while dying. But are the two verses three years apart? Are the Losties in 2007 while the ALTLosties are in 2004?