Things Not Said

[shipperx]

Honest responses I would have to threads in the MyFitnessPal forum if I wanted to wade into kerfuffles:

To the poster hoping to lose 160lbs and complaining that you're 'just too stuffed' eating 700 calories a day to eat any more and yet you STILL aren't losing weight and so just want to give up:

Either you're inaccurate in your calorie totals (though you deny this vocally and act persecuted when people wonder whether you're correctly logging calories) or you have a medical problem and need to see a doctor. If you're (legitimately) eating 700 calories a DAY, you would be losing weight. No, you really would. That's barely enough calories to function. Your brain alone needs 500. At any rate, 700 calories a day isn't healthy!

Also, you are darn well capable of eating more than 700 calories in a day. I know this by the fact that you have 160 lbs TO LOSE (not weighs 160, wants to LOSE 160 lbs). So, no, I do not buy that you CAN'T eat more than 700 calories because you'd be just too stuffed.

Finally, if you're unwilling to take the advice of the many posters telling you that you have to eat more than 700 calories a day, why on earth did you start the thread? Did you want kudos for starvation? Or were you looking for an excuse to quit... in which case I'm guessing you will begin eating more than 700 calories a day, proving that you can indeed can eat more than 700 calories.

To male poster asking "Why are women so jealous? Is it hormonal?":

1) You are a sexist tool.
2) All of these women responding to you with "You're so right! Womenz are just JEALOUS!" are self-hating sexists as well.

To Poster wanting to know how many calories she should eat to look like a Victoria's Secret Model:

Unless you look like a Victoria's Secret model because of incredibly good genetics, no diet in the world is going to give you her body. Hell, not even Victoria's Secret models truly have Victoria's Secret model bodies. They fast before the photoshoot, have boob-jobs, have professional make-up, professional lighting, professional spray-tans, and professional photoshop to boot.

To 18 year old girl 'terrified' of gaining weight who subsists on 600 calories a day (and 'CAN'T eat more'!) who says she 'hates herself' when she eats, 'hates herself' if she treats herself to any sort of 'bad' food, 'hates herself' if she misses a workout, and weighs herself multiple times a day, while utterly refusing to eat more calories despite every poster on the thread telling her to do so:

Sweetie,

You have an eating disorder.

You need to tell your parents. Pronto.

Despite 'feeling full' and 'having lots of energy', 600 calories a day is ANOREXIA. So is all the self-loathing, self-punishment over food, and your expressed 'terror' of weight gain when you were never overweight to begin with... as evidenced by your obsessing over being 7 lbs over your 'ideal.' (Having seen the documentary "Thin" where an anorexic's expressed 'ideal' was to weigh 57 lbs, I'm wondering whether your 'ideal' might perhaps be unrealistic from the get-go. No one knows because you won't say what your goal is, which is one of many things in your posts fueling other posters' suspicions that you are anorexic.)

To the IFYM crowd:

Stop with the fucking Pop-Tart ice cream sandwiches posts. You may be some sort of gym rat who spends a bazillion hours a day working out, so "It Fits Your Macros" to have a scoop of ice cream slathered between two frosted Pop Tarts for an after dinner 'snack' (or at least you claim to be able to do this) without going over your daily calories, but this is not true of most people, making your posts fucking annoying.

Comments

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

LOL! Oh dear...people are insanely stupid, aren't they? Enough to make one wonder how they managed to survive this long?

And seriously, Pop-Tart ice cream sandwiches??? There are such things?

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Lord, some of these people. Truly, it's astonishing.

And, yeah, apparently pop-tart ice cream sandwiches is a thing. Beats the hell out of me why. Seems like a way to ruin perfectly good ice cream with...well... pop tarts.

There are better, more delicious ways, to indulge a sweet tooth.

[shapinglight]

They all sound fucking annoying except for that poor kid. God, I hope she'll be okay.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

She was really worrisome. Most of the people claiming that they are eating 700 calories and "OMG TOO FULL!" are transparently full of crap (mainly because they're the same ones wondering why they aren't losing weight, or they have 100lbs to lose so you know, even if they ate 700 calories this week they won't continue doing anything that nutty for long). But this girl's posts seemed serious and when she got into all the ways she 'got angry' with herself over eating and how she felt guilty when she did. It had bright red flags all over it. This girl seriously came off as anorexic.

[rahirah]

Pop-Tart ice cream sandwiches sound gross. :P

[wildrider.livejournal.com]

Now, this is just another one of those things that makes me wonder if we have anything at all in common. I thought, "Yum... unfortunately, around like 900 calories." :)

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Only 900? I was expecting 1200 at least?

And every time one of those gym rats posts that they're eating it because it 'fit their macros' I'm wondering, Dude, do you LIVE on the stair climber at the gym???

[wildrider.livejournal.com]

That was off the top of my head. Looking at the Pop-Tarts in my cupboard and the ice cream in the fridge (Blue Bell, not light), 2 Pop-Tarts = 400 calories (these are chocolate-peanut butter), 1/2 cup of ice cream = 190 calories, so around 600 calories. I can't imagine trying to put more than a 1/2 cup on your sandwich, but say you went to a full cup, then around 800 calories.

Not an everyday event!

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Certainly not! :D

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

IKR?

I mean, I love sweets, but frosted pop tarts with ice cream? I mean, you could just pour Karo corn syrup on top of ice cream and it would basically be the same thing (and would also ruin the ice cream).

There are more delicious ways to indulge a sweet tooth.

[usedtobeljs]

Oh that poor 18-year-old. :(

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Yeah.

Most of the people you just shrug off as being full of crap. This girl was seriously upsetting because she seemed perfectly serious about what she was saying and what she was saying was very unhealthy not only nutritionally but psychologically.

[deborahw37.livejournal.com]

Deeply concerned for 600 calorie a day youngster but the othes are just irksome

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

The 600 calorie teen was very concerning. When she got into all of her self loathing and her reactions to eating it became really obvious that she wasn't just on some nutty but doomed effort to eat 600 calories. She's in anorexia territory. She is in danger.

[cindergal.livejournal.com]

Ah, yes, the famous poptart ice cream sandwiches, LOL! I've seen them mentioned many times. While I'm a supporter of IIFYM to a certain extent, for me it means a half cup of ice cream, ya know? Besides, they sound disgusting.

That young girl's post is so sad, though. :-(

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Seriously, what is with the gloating "mwhwhahhaha! I ate THIS: <.gif of poptart sandwich> or link to tater-tot-casserole.

I mean, even if I could manage my workout such that I could eat a 1200 calorie snack, I wouldn't be snacking on two frosted pop tarts ruining my ice cream.

More than that, to believe that someone actually DOES have it in their macros to eat that as a 'snack' they had better be working out like Michael Phelps because otherwise I'm calling bullshit.

And yeah, the 18 year old freaking out over the thought of gaining an ounce if she went over 600 calories was all kinds of worrisome. Everything she posted in that thread sounded like anorexia.

[queenofattolia.livejournal.com]

Nice to see that people are as delusional, sexist and probably mentally ill on other boards as they are in genre fandoms.

I feel awful for that anorexic girl, though. Having known several anorexics and bulemics (including one who basically killed herself through the latter disorder), I know that the self-loathing these people experience is both horrible and heartbreaking. I hope she gets help.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Not only as they as delusional, sexist, and mentally ill... they're also seem as a whole somewhat more stupid.

And the anorexic girl was scary.

I did watch the HBO documentary on anorexia recently (and googled "where are they now?" after it to discover one of the girls killed herself (and she had seemed the nicest, most rational one) and another -- who was really worrisome in the film -- had fallen into heroine addiction on top of her eating disorder. Watching those girls, it was clear that this is a mental disorder manifesting symptoms through food issues. They had real emotional problems which was how the girl on MFP posts became so disturbing. It was clear that she has real emotional problems and an incredibly unhealthy relationship with food.

[chrisvee.livejournal.com]

It feels like the old Buffy days doesn't it? Just with food instead of soulless vampires.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Heh.

One way or another, everything is fandom (just of different kinds).