Weekend Stuff
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Football
Stomped Tennessee, which as a Bama fan is always considered to be a good thing. However, I was expecting a better game. This was nearly as much of a blow out as Arkansas. Ah well, can't really complain, right?
Dancing on the Edge
Watched the Starz miniseries Dancing on the Edge which starred the same guy who is in 12 Years a Slave as a jazz band leader, John Goodman as an American robber-baron-industrialist, and Anthony Stewart Head playing a 1931 jackass aristocrat who would rather frame an innocent man for a murder than have a fellow aristocrat blamed for it. A bit slow, but interesting (although the final "interview" episode was wholly unecessary.)
Once Upon A Time
So, Captain Hook gets his flashback episode and... he's related to Spike, right? (They could share long black leather coat + eyeliner of moral amibiguity tips!)
Hook was a 'good man' (Or as Ichabod Crane would say, 'an exemplary lieutenant') who fell into pirate-ty ways upon being disillusioned by others, and who 'just wants to be seen for the man that he truly is.' Oh, and his telling Emma "As you wish..." was totally a Princess Bride shout-out, right? (As soon as he said it, my mental pop culture quote rememberer added "Which means Dread Pirate Roberts loves you." )
I don't have a strong shipping preference, however, so I don't really have to see Emma/Hook come out of this. They could toss Hook to Ariel Mermaid Princess (who in the trailer looks familiar but I can't place from where) and, hey, Pirate/Mermaid seems like it should work (I have this foreboding sense that Prince Eric will turn out to have been a douche. He kind of was in the non-Disney version of the tale, so I sort of expect it in Once's). At any rate, I'm not set on any ship, but I was sort of correct in thinking all along that with everyone tossing out how 'beneath' the heroes that Hook is, that it would turn out that somehow he'd once been a 'good man'... hence, he's related to Spike, right? ;)
Peter Pan continues to be an interesting villain. Good casting and good story use of the character (who seems to be hybridized with the mythological figure Pan in addition to creepy-fying the kiddie tale of Peter Pan).
Prince Charming is being a noble dolt (Seriously, Charming, it's not noble to lie to your family to 'protect them', just tell the truth and let them deal!)
Anyway, not a "Fool for Love" level episode, but I do think this seasons Once is, in general, an big improvement over last year's. I've enjoyed the Neverland arc and its purpose for the primary characters to have to confront who they are in order to succeed.
The Vampire Diaries
I've been waaaaayyyy behind with episodes piling up on the DVR, but I finally got around to watching.
Doppleganger overload, anyone? How many doubles can there be? (And isn't Elena a triple now?)
Generally, I've never been a hard shipper on this show either. Up until last year I was always about as pro (or sometimes more pro) Elena/Stefan as I was to Elena/Damon. Although, frankly, I was basically -- y'all are vampires, Ot3 already! But, Stefan was such an offputting douche last year that Elena 'had' to be human or he couldn't 'see her the same way' (came off as very madonna/whore to me) that it put a serious a dent in the pro-Elena/Stefan feelz. Now, this doppleganger non-sense of being 'fated' across time and space has me jumping up and down for Team Free Will! Go Damon. Sure, you're a serial killing jerk, but at least no one says that the universe insists that you MUST win all the darn time.
I more often than not have issues with any ship that invokes 'fate.' It makes me feel very contrarian. It worked for me on Fringe because the concept wasn't brought up until far into the series after many had already climbed upon a ship (and the only quasi-competing ship got a happy ending anyway), so it wasn't the foundation OF said ship. And I'm okay with it the way the 'fated love' card has been used for Regina on Once Upon a Time because of the twist of when Tinkerbell pointed Regina towards her 'fated true love' (Robin Hood?!) Regina went, 'See ya!' and ran as hard as she could the other way. That twist makes things somewhat interesting. Still, usually, when the 'fate'/destiny/soul mates schtick comes out, I usually cringe. I want to watch an interesting relationship, not writer caveat!
*spit* Eternal soul mates. I'll always be team free will.
And, Sleepy Hollow tonight, yay! (Edit: Turns out not. Boo! It's Halloween week!)
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Football
Stomped Tennessee, which as a Bama fan is always considered to be a good thing. However, I was expecting a better game. This was nearly as much of a blow out as Arkansas. Ah well, can't really complain, right?
Dancing on the Edge
Watched the Starz miniseries Dancing on the Edge which starred the same guy who is in 12 Years a Slave as a jazz band leader, John Goodman as an American robber-baron-industrialist, and Anthony Stewart Head playing a 1931 jackass aristocrat who would rather frame an innocent man for a murder than have a fellow aristocrat blamed for it. A bit slow, but interesting (although the final "interview" episode was wholly unecessary.)
Once Upon A Time
So, Captain Hook gets his flashback episode and... he's related to Spike, right? (They could share long black leather coat + eyeliner of moral amibiguity tips!)
Hook was a 'good man' (Or as Ichabod Crane would say, 'an exemplary lieutenant') who fell into pirate-ty ways upon being disillusioned by others, and who 'just wants to be seen for the man that he truly is.' Oh, and his telling Emma "As you wish..." was totally a Princess Bride shout-out, right? (As soon as he said it, my mental pop culture quote rememberer added "Which means Dread Pirate Roberts loves you." )
I don't have a strong shipping preference, however, so I don't really have to see Emma/Hook come out of this. They could toss Hook to Ariel Mermaid Princess (who in the trailer looks familiar but I can't place from where) and, hey, Pirate/Mermaid seems like it should work (I have this foreboding sense that Prince Eric will turn out to have been a douche. He kind of was in the non-Disney version of the tale, so I sort of expect it in Once's). At any rate, I'm not set on any ship, but I was sort of correct in thinking all along that with everyone tossing out how 'beneath' the heroes that Hook is, that it would turn out that somehow he'd once been a 'good man'... hence, he's related to Spike, right? ;)
Peter Pan continues to be an interesting villain. Good casting and good story use of the character (who seems to be hybridized with the mythological figure Pan in addition to creepy-fying the kiddie tale of Peter Pan).
Prince Charming is being a noble dolt (Seriously, Charming, it's not noble to lie to your family to 'protect them', just tell the truth and let them deal!)
Anyway, not a "Fool for Love" level episode, but I do think this seasons Once is, in general, an big improvement over last year's. I've enjoyed the Neverland arc and its purpose for the primary characters to have to confront who they are in order to succeed.
The Vampire Diaries
I've been waaaaayyyy behind with episodes piling up on the DVR, but I finally got around to watching.
Doppleganger overload, anyone? How many doubles can there be? (And isn't Elena a triple now?)
Generally, I've never been a hard shipper on this show either. Up until last year I was always about as pro (or sometimes more pro) Elena/Stefan as I was to Elena/Damon. Although, frankly, I was basically -- y'all are vampires, Ot3 already! But, Stefan was such an offputting douche last year that Elena 'had' to be human or he couldn't 'see her the same way' (came off as very madonna/whore to me) that it put a serious a dent in the pro-Elena/Stefan feelz. Now, this doppleganger non-sense of being 'fated' across time and space has me jumping up and down for Team Free Will! Go Damon. Sure, you're a serial killing jerk, but at least no one says that the universe insists that you MUST win all the darn time.
I more often than not have issues with any ship that invokes 'fate.' It makes me feel very contrarian. It worked for me on Fringe because the concept wasn't brought up until far into the series after many had already climbed upon a ship (and the only quasi-competing ship got a happy ending anyway), so it wasn't the foundation OF said ship. And I'm okay with it the way the 'fated love' card has been used for Regina on Once Upon a Time because of the twist of when Tinkerbell pointed Regina towards her 'fated true love' (Robin Hood?!) Regina went, 'See ya!' and ran as hard as she could the other way. That twist makes things somewhat interesting. Still, usually, when the 'fate'/destiny/soul mates schtick comes out, I usually cringe. I want to watch an interesting relationship, not writer caveat!
*spit* Eternal soul mates. I'll always be team free will.
And, Sleepy Hollow tonight, yay! (Edit: Turns out not. Boo! It's Halloween week!)
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Date: 2013-10-28 06:23 pm (UTC)Stefan was presented as the stalwart noble suffering vampire. Damon was the snarky, rude bad guy who has slowly become...er... less bad.
Stefan got turned and he went full-bore evil head-ripping worstest vampire ever! Damon got turned because he was a love-sick woobie who resisted going bad at first.
Stefan goes OTT eeeeeeeeeeeevil in a deeply out of control way if he ever drinks human blood straight from the human. He cannot control himself and rips his victims heads off (literally). Damon won't give up drinking straight from the human, but he also isn't controlled by his urges. Damon can stop whenever he chooses, but Stefan has to go cold turkey or he (as he did a season a go) goes full-bore psycho killer.
The two brothers (and Stefan/Damon are literally brothers) also have the regretable habit of both falling for the same woman (all of whom appear to be Elena in some form) They were turned by Katherine (one of the Elena dopplegangers). Damon loved Katherine more than Stefan loved Katherine, but Katherine loved Stefan more than she ever did Damon (although Katherine is NOT a good person once anyone gets to know her). Rinse and repeat and Stefan fell for (good Katherine 21st century doppleganger) Elena. Damon fell for Elena too. The show was predicated on Stefan/Elena and seems loathe to give it up, though most of the fandom seems to be Elena/Damon.
Although, unlike BtVS, Elena is allowed to actually love Damon. She actually overtly chose Damon over Stefan last season (after Stefan couldn't really accept her once she had been turned into a vampire). But, this season they're back to pushing "But Stefan/Elena have been fated over time and space and are FATE, damnit!"
Which, hey, way to put the writer stompy-foot down. (Really, I've tended to favor Ot3 with Stefan/Elena/Damon because they've established that as much as Stefan/Damon fight and argue, they genuinely love each other too. Really, they should just do the unconventional and have Elena 'keep' both of them, especially since she's now a vampire too.)
And the comics were really rancid cherry on top of the crap sundae that is the Spike/Angel situation. Angel is flat-out an inferior to Spike. Angel is given every advantage possible, yet... Spike was capable of choosing a soul, Angel wasn't. Angel, even with soul, can be convinced that his 'hero' status requires outright murdering of people because his special snowflake status and his 'earned reward' require it. Meanwhile, Angel gets constant head-pats, kudos, and multiple people to help him stay on his path while Spike gets... no one.
That puts paid to it all to me.
Spike > Angel. Period.
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Date: 2013-10-28 07:42 pm (UTC)Yep, and yet no one involved in creating the situation seems to realise how biased and unfair it is.
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Date: 2013-10-28 08:45 pm (UTC)Buffy did as well, of course, but good grief, he'd earned that from her by then. Fred did it with nothing to gain for herself. She just saw him as someone who had innate worth, and she's close to being alone in that.
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Date: 2013-10-29 01:01 pm (UTC)Because it's Spike, and it's not important.
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Date: 2013-10-29 02:01 pm (UTC)But Harmony will probably become a regular.