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shipperxStill stuck with the sparkly pretty pink princess because I didn't bother to finish yesterday (and, yes, I realize that there is no rule that I must finish the book, except now I'm doing it for the pure meaness of waiting for the hero to (unjustly) call her a whore, because it is so, so, so very coming. And then I will high five myself for knowing that it was coming, that he really is that douche, and that she walked right into it by being a moron.
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shadowkat67, I've begun wonder what an author such as Sherry Thomas would do with this (since her niche seems to be deconstructing genre tropes.) I don't honestly know what Thomas would do with this one. Something deeply angst-rific probably. There could be a heck of a lot of work done with its repressed, spineless heroine and her love for a guy she has nothing in common with. But where Thomas would probably come up with something troubled and angsty, I'm more likely to lean towards rahirah's concept of unicorn goring (sounds like something where BtVS's Harmony would be involved).
Actually, though, when thinking about it on the commute to work, I thought that the way to re-work this novel in a more entertaining way would be to tell the entire thing from the points of view of the lady's maid and the hero's valet. They could recognize what compete imbeciles and douches their employers are and fun could be had. In fact, I've had tangential ideas about that sort of thing from a couple of books.
From one set of books where there's clearly a cascade effect going on with its heroes (by that I mean that the hero of one novel is set up in the previous novel. Usually by hinting at some brooding secret.) I also began thinking of the ways that some authors slip in sub-plots into their stories that are actually more involving than the main plot. In one of the Milan novels, there was a lovely subplot that had the heroine's sister fall in love with an law student from India during the timeframe of Victorian England. I wondered whether this was a romance that Milan had wanted to tell but which she found it easier to sell to a publisher as a subplot rather than a main plot. (The subplot pairing got their happy ending BTW). And I remember another subplot pairing (in a 1980s book whose title I've long since forgotten and whose author I cannot even remember ) that's always been my standard bearer "the subplot romance is better than the main one" pairing. It was a Civil War romance with an entirely forgetable hero and heroine {I seriously remember NOTHING about them!} with a subplot where the Southern hero had a half-brother who was a slave. The bi-racial half-brother and his starcrossed love for the daughter of the plantation next door was an infinitely more involving story. {They eventually ran away together to California, never to be heard of again but yearningly towards a happy ending). I haven't seen the like of that story again. Probably because it's more difficult to market...? I've always wondered whether the author had felt compelled to couple that story with a more stereotypical pairing in order to get it published in the 1980s. (Romances often have a conservative audience. Don't believe it, read some of the Amazon reviews complaining about 'unclean' love scenes. Which considering some of the vampire love scenes I've read in fandom, is a phrase that sends my mind to an entirely different place than the complainers mean...} Still, that sub-plot pairing worked because it didn't take unrealistic obstacles. They had obstacles aplenty based in historical reality, which is what made the subplot a compelling story.
Anyway, back to the original thought of cascading brooding secret-keeping Victorian heros, while I'm well aware of the existence of its very own genre, I'm actually waiting for the day when the baton pass in the relay to the next brooding secret-keeping hero in a mainstream romance is that he's gay. If the brother or best friend with a 'secret' turned out to be gay and in some star crossed love for some guy he didn't think he could have (but of course could and would) took place in the Victorian era with their having some hot young version of Professor Higgins/Colonel Pickering (sans Eliza Doolittle) or Sherlock Holmes/Doctor Watson 'confirmed bachelor' story where they were accepted as a loving pairing by the other pairings in the romance series (anachronistic? Whatever. Historical romances are virtually always anachronistic so go for it. This romance cascade effect with a group of happy pairs is what happens in romance triologies and romance series) I think its time is coming. Soaps have already gone there. Can the romance industry get around to it any time soon? Contemporaries probably get away with it now. So, come on, historicals. It could totally work. Fandom would do it (and probably has many, many times over). Romance publishers will be a lagging indicator of change. It'll probably happen in e-publishing first. They tend to feel freer to take chances there.
Another tangential thought while reading was that it's really weird how we react to certain things. In one of the Victorian novellas I read, the hero had gone abroad to mountain climb and that had taught him some life lessons. One of the Amazon reviewers had complained about this aspect, about how he'd gone ten years doing something that shouldn't take that long and seemed self-indulgent. And...well... it was perhaps odd subject matter, but I could see Sir Edmund Hillary-like adventurer thing. I was intrigued. Then again, I'm someone who enjoyed reading (well, was fascinated by reading) Into Thin Air and Dark Summit, which chronicle two of the deadliest expeditions taken to Everest. Those sorts of stories are compelling and awful and speak to the nature of people in a way that is stark (and often unflattering.) Those people are hard core.
Of course the thing that's also jumbed out at me when reading the appendixes of books like Into Thin Air and Dark Summit (and watching several "I Shouldn't be Alive" Discovery channel things), is that that particular strain of adventurer frequently climbs until they kill themselves. It's rather stunning when reading the updated appendix of those books to find that the survivors of those deadly expeditions not only went back to climbing, but many of them have since died on the mountains. The ones who display common sense live to a ripe old age, almost appear to be a minority.
None of which had to do with the Victorian novel I was reading, but which did make my muse think... you know, I could see how the adventuring mountain climber could be a charismatic hero... and how it could be a real and compelling obstacle in a romance because the danger is real, and these mountain climbers seem to keep doing it until they kill themselves. You know what might work? If there was a romance pairing that this aspect became the big obstacle. There would need to be a heroine who was both attracted and repelled by this. You know, I always feel for those rangers who have to pull people off of El Capitan or
the helicopter pilots that have to fly into the death zones to pull idiots off of Everest. And it would make a good place for the pairing to meet. A pilot/ranger heroine. A charismatic, adventuring hero. His death wish hobby. That could work as a comtemporary romance novel.
Alas, I've got the muse for this sort of thing, but I'm not the one to write it. (Would totally read it though).
Rounding out the random thoughts, Nashville has a bazillion things wrong with it, but the Avery/Juliette pairing is not one of them. They've managed to build these two into quite the rootable ship. She's this fiery star with a tragic past who is often her own worst enemy. And they've slowly grown Avery into the man who BELIEVES in her. When, after her music publisher, called her trailer trash of mediocre talent, and then Avery later found her drunk and told her that she was damned talented and that she would survive, then took her out so that they sang together incognito as players of street music.... Yep. That worked. I love a supportive guy. This pairing was nicely built. They're still slow-burn, but they've definitely set up the elements to make me root for these two to at long last hook up.
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Date: 2014-01-24 02:00 am (UTC)Contemporaries have already gotten away with it.:) Suzanne Brockmann has a long-running series about an elite private security firm that had a gay supporting character, who, over the course of several books, falls in love with an actor. While they didn't get their own full-length book, they did get a novella about their wedding.
And last year JR Ward released Lover at Last, a gay vampire romance that hit the bestsellers list. (If you're not familiar with Ward, she writes a vampire series in which the heroes have names like Rhage, Tohrment, Vishous, etc. They are, uh, not my cup of tea.)
I haven't heard of it happening in a historical romance yet, but it's only a matter of time.
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Date: 2014-01-25 01:48 am (UTC)Female/Female less likely...did see it referred to in a Eloise James Regency Historical though, the hero's fiancee dumps him for another woman, and takes off with her. But not quite developed. (Pleasure for Pleasure).
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Date: 2014-01-26 04:31 pm (UTC)I could buy Brockmann pulling a pairing off. I do think it will happen with historical's eventually. There have been a couple of really oblique references recently, I'm just waiting for the full-blown subplot.
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Date: 2014-01-26 11:14 pm (UTC)I kept trying to read the shape-shifter ones, but the blurb alone had me burst out laughing or rolling my eyes.
"There was just something about a man with big paws" - this was in regards to The Mane Event (can't remember the writer) - a contemporary romance about a female werewolf and a guy who shapeshifts into a lion. (It was recommended to me, along with the dragon shapshifting romance novels by a co-worker.)
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Date: 2014-01-26 11:38 pm (UTC)So there’s Wrath, the Blind King, the six-foot-six broad-shouldered massive-wanged leader of the Brotherhood. Then there is his second in command Tohrment, the level-headed one who is the only warrior amongst the Brothers to have found true happiness with his shellan. Following on from those we get Rhage, whose Hollywood-perfect good looks give way to a terrible beast when his curse is upon him. Vishous, the goateed, tattooed genius whose gloved left hand holds a terrible destructive power. Zsadist, the former blood-slave whose face is marred by scars and whose cold black eyes hold the promise of death. And Phury, who … has really good hair.
The series is wildly popular, but I honest to goodness can't even get past the character names to give it a chance.
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Date: 2014-01-27 02:54 pm (UTC)Maybe if I get into a particularly absurd mood one day I will(the same mood that drove me to download the Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter {novel}. That said, Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter turned out to be unreadably awful (not 'bad in a good way' bad just... bad) and I gave up half way through. Amused snarking only takes one so far, so I tend to try to resist the moood).
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Date: 2014-01-27 03:05 pm (UTC)