I know. I'm stunned they left out the epilogue because it was such an unexpected jaw-dropper of a moment. How could they resist?
And the Tysha thing...
On the one hand it really messes with the Tyrion/Jaime dynamic. Tyrion left King's Landing hating EVERYONE, having been disillusioned by EVERYONE. Here: Well, Tyrion should love Jaime more than ever. He was the one who remained true to him no matter what. That seems like a relationship change even though I suspect it has little if no impact on plot (although Cersei discovering Jaime freed Tyrion could do-in their relationship, which is a reversal of the dynamic on the show. Either tha, and if Jaime does go to Dorne, maybe the fall-out is over Myrcella?)
On the other hand, from a show-only perspective, bringing up Tysha would be really out in left field. Casual show fans would most likely not know what they were talking about.
And the change in Shae has always made the prospect of this episode more difficult to figure how it's going to work. Book!Shae never loved Tyrion. Show!Shae (I believe) did. It's just a very basic difference that makes things more difficult to figure out emotionally.
Brienne/Hound was a good adaptation. Better than random people doing in the Hound. And a great scene in that -- who do you root to "win"? As a viewer you're torn during the scene, because you really don't want either to die.
However, it is a change to have Brienne meet the Hound. On the other hand, if speculation about the Hound IS true, it changes that (potential) future scene because the debateability about it was that Brienne wouldn't have recognized the Hound anyway. Yet, on TV there's no way to pull off that ambiguity so I guess if that speculation IS true, it wouldn't matter whether or not Brienne recognized him because the audience would. So, it's a change (MAYBE) but one that I don't think changes things the way that the Jaime/Tyrion dynamic is changed.
Stoneheart remains an open question. But I still contend inclusion of Stoneheart is not optional. It's where Brienne and Jaimes plot WILL eventually go. It just may take a while.
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Date: 2014-06-16 03:55 pm (UTC)And the Tysha thing...
On the one hand it really messes with the Tyrion/Jaime dynamic. Tyrion left King's Landing hating EVERYONE, having been disillusioned by EVERYONE. Here: Well, Tyrion should love Jaime more than ever. He was the one who remained true to him no matter what. That seems like a relationship change even though I suspect it has little if no impact on plot (although Cersei discovering Jaime freed Tyrion could do-in their relationship, which is a reversal of the dynamic on the show. Either tha, and if Jaime does go to Dorne, maybe the fall-out is over Myrcella?)
On the other hand, from a show-only perspective, bringing up Tysha would be really out in left field. Casual show fans would most likely not know what they were talking about.
And the change in Shae has always made the prospect of this episode more difficult to figure how it's going to work. Book!Shae never loved Tyrion. Show!Shae (I believe) did. It's just a very basic difference that makes things more difficult to figure out emotionally.
Brienne/Hound was a good adaptation. Better than random people doing in the Hound. And a great scene in that -- who do you root to "win"? As a viewer you're torn during the scene, because you really don't want either to die.
However, it is a change to have Brienne meet the Hound. On the other hand, if speculation about the Hound IS true, it changes that (potential) future scene because the debateability about it was that Brienne wouldn't have recognized the Hound anyway. Yet, on TV there's no way to pull off that ambiguity so I guess if that speculation IS true, it wouldn't matter whether or not Brienne recognized him because the audience would. So, it's a change (MAYBE) but one that I don't think changes things the way that the Jaime/Tyrion dynamic is changed.
Stoneheart remains an open question. But I still contend inclusion of Stoneheart is not optional. It's where Brienne and Jaimes plot WILL eventually go. It just may take a while.