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It seems a substantial change to me.  And a surprising one.  I'm thinking it may have boiled down to safety concerns...?  Dunno.  Unlike the Jaime stuff we know, I don't know that this is a change that I like.  We'll have to wait and see.

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Date: 2014-10-21 07:20 pm (UTC)
shapinglight: (This 'ship is so doomed!)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
Hmm. Most commentors seem to think it's a good idea. I, however, spoilered myself for Jorah's story and hope this won't detract from it.

Have to admit, it'll be pretty heart breaking if Dany can watch Jorah fight in the arena and not bat an eyelid at the prospect of him dying right in front of her.

Date: 2014-10-21 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
In the book, it's not Jorah. (Though it's not such a stretch that I scream foul over it.)

Jorah doesn't fight in the pit (though he's in danger of it at some future -- never happened -- point), and is alive at the end of the book.

Jorah in the pit is a change. The main change is that Dany hadn't 'met' Tyrion by the end of Dance with Dragons. In the book, to Dany, Tyrion was just a random dwarf used for 'entertainment' in the pit and (at a distance) she calls a halt to it, saying that it was cruel (She is NOT a fan of this gladiatorial spectacle in the book. She finds everything about it repugnant.) She and Tyrion do not actually meet up close or with her knowing who he was. (And then Tyrion goes off and does something else next.)

In the photos, Tyrion is sitting near her on the diaz, so clearly they do meet (in some sense). Additionally, Daario is also around (which he isn't in the book). And Barristan Selmy isn't around, but he is in the book (however, Barristan would recognize Tyrion, so it might be possible that she doesn't know who Tyrion is, which may have necessitated absenting Barristan Selmy from the scene for logistical purposes. Who knows. Clearly the scene is different from the book so it's pure speculation).


In the book, the pit's gladiatorial battle is a 'shit hits the fan' moment where ultimately she's in the midst of a huge clusterf--- and dives into... well... it should be a spectacular episode (season?) ender. (I'm betting it's a penultimate like the Red Wedding was with a different scene as the final scene of the season).

At any rate this is probably the huge set piece of the season. And if anything, raises Jorah's profile.

After some thought, I can see the change, having Jorah in the pit rather than random gladiator, because it would work better on a personal motivation level for Dany (and the audience). I'm just a tad disappointed that Tyrion didn't end up in the pit.

Since this is not the way things go down in the book, there's no way to know what happens to Jorah. Though I would think the Dany exit remains the same because it's the biggest kick-ass moment in the book.

Edited Date: 2014-10-21 08:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-10-21 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
All of which is a tl:dr to say, though this isn't how things go down in the book (because MUCH is different) my bet is that it culminates in Dany trying to save him, however it may turn out.

Date: 2014-10-21 10:03 pm (UTC)
shapinglight: (stroppy teenage dragon)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
Well, I can live with that. :)

Date: 2014-10-21 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
For a scene that's not in the books, I still expect this to be a big emotional scene for Dany/Jorah. I could see his either suriving or not surviving though, based on how they want to play it. So, given that it's not in the book, I just don't know.

The one thing I absolutely do not expect is that she'll be unemotional about his being in the pit. She's been conflicted about that damned pit re-opening (by demand) for the entire book and was insistent that the only ones in it be ones who were volunteering to be in it for the prizes. The Tyrion situation in the book made it clear to her that it wasn't nearly as voluntary as the Mereenese had claimed. Basically, it's the scene where she's had enough.
Edited Date: 2014-10-21 10:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-10-22 08:57 am (UTC)
shapinglight: (Knight)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
Well, if the Tyrion situation's altered, who knows, then?

Maybe Jorah has volunteered to be in the pit so he can see her one last time?

I can always imagine the worst case scenario.

Date: 2014-10-22 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Since you spoiled yourself for Jorah's plot anyway...

I don't think Jorah is allowed to choose. He's a slave at that point.

Though things have changed in the scene, I doubt the purpose of it has. Danny has spent the entire book compromising for 'peace' , trying to accommodate the Merenese. This is setting up the moment she metaphorically says ' screw you all. I am Dany Targaryan, mother of dragons!'

After all, its a GOT wedding, you know something huge is about to go down.

Date: 2014-10-22 12:58 pm (UTC)
shapinglight: (Season 3 Danaerys)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
After all, its a GOT wedding, you know something huge is about to go down.

There is that. ;)

Date: 2014-10-22 12:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
I'm thinking it may have boiled down to safety concerns...?

Dammit, now I want to know, yet I don't want to know. I'm intrigued what you mean by safety concerns, as in, is there something that is just too unfilmable? Yet without spoiling myself. lol.

Date: 2014-10-22 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Basically that something might either be too physically taxing for a specific actor so another does it... or perhaps animals are tricky.

Date: 2014-10-22 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
Presumably the pool of actors of that stature with stunt training is pretty limited.

But I'll be really upset if we loose the Jorah-Tyrion doubleact completely.

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