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I guess I'm just not 'cool.'   I still like JM.   Sorry.  I'll just be the 'out of it' nerd in the corner.

Smallville isn't exactly a huge career move.  I honestly never gave a damn about the show but, so what?  Who am I to judge?  It's work.  It might be fun, and I'm pedestrian enough to be okay with that.  Besides, I don't watch anything else on Thursday.

If you've entered the "I don't give a shit about JM" phase (or the "I actively dislike JM" phase).  I understand. But, I'm going to be lame enough to still talk about him.  (Er, guess it shows that I'm still grumpy.  Apologies.  It'll pass. And no.  None of that is directed at any one person, just peevishness at the general direction of the rhetoric in the remnants of the fandom.  If  I've miffed someone, I'm genuinely sorry.  It's not personal.  No intent to offend).

ETA: Wrongda is reporting that a WB rep denied that JM is going to be on Smallville. WB rep also said thaqt the WB had offered to do AtS movies but Joss turned it down. Who is shocked by this? And who can tell who is trying to pin it on who more? It's the most mentioned movie no one ever wanted to make. Well, other than "Superman Lives."

Lisa (the one that isn't me) posted some more info on JM on Smallville: http://www.livejournal.com/users/voodoo_in_tx/273640.html

So... I googled.  This is what I came up with:

Vril Dox) was once a scientist on the planet Colu. Because of his genius, Dox was allowed to serve the planet's tyrants. Attempting to overthrow the tyrants and rule Colu himself, Dox had invented a teleporter. Discovering his plan, the tyrants used the teleporter on Dox, apparently killing him. But Dox's mind survived and eventually came to Earth when it was found by "The Amazing Brainiac"(aka Milton Fine) a circus mentalist with latent mental powers. Dox fought to control Fine's body and while doing so found that combining his and Fine's mental powers allowed for amazing feats that caused several psychic battles with Superman. Fine's identity was almost destroyed by Dox who now completely controled the body and had great mental powers, partly due to an implant supplied by Lex Luthor. Brainiac's body and mental powers became even stronger after Luthor tried to control him in a psionics lab, where Brainiac instead managed to control Luthor and other LexCorp employees.




Date: 2005-07-21 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sp23.livejournal.com
Aw. ::gives Lisa a noogie::

Actually, since I've had a chance to cool down and come to a bit of acceptance that it's Smallville JM's going to be in, I've actually gotten excited about the role he'll be playing. I kinda, sorta remember Brianiac from the comics I read several generations ago when I was young, and think it'll be a cool role for JM. In the comics, Brianiac was bald and green. I wonder if JM will be bald and green by season's end. *g*

Date: 2005-07-21 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
LOL! Lord, I hope not.

If they don't subject Welling to red tights, could they spare the green? And we JUST got past the baldness!

Date: 2005-07-21 10:39 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2005-07-21 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txvoodoo.livejournal.com
"Lisa (the one that isn't me) "

*giggles*

I love how people kept clarifying that. "Not our Lisa! The other Lisa!"

btw, from what I can figure from Smallville spoilers and such, it seems they're going with this part of the Brainiac canon more:

http://supermanica.info/wiki/index.php/Brainiac

Specifically, the spaceship and the making him look more human so as to spy better.

My hubby's happy about it!

Date: 2005-07-21 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahlynnl.livejournal.com
I like both of my Lisa's. It still amazes me at how fast the news travels over the internet and I have been on it for over a year now. Man it moves fast everywhere.

What episode will JM show up in/on? Plus bad guys are more fun they get away with more than the good guys.

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Date: 2005-07-22 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
I love how people kept clarifying that. "Not our Lisa! The other Lisa!"

Ah well, for a certain time period it was an extremely popular name. In college my dorm assignment had in our suite (I kid you not) Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, and Susan. When guys would call (and it being college and people frequently not knowing the last name) we'd have to ask them to DESCRIBE the Lisa they wanted. :)

Oh, and in my architecture class we had TWO Lisas. Both tall and blonde. When we'd got to the art supply store (where we both had accounts and, it being architecture school, we were there every freaking week) the clerks would point and say "I know you're Lisa, I just don't remember which one." :)

Re: Brainiac. I know virtually nothing of Superman lore. I just hope that it's an interesting role. Campy fun is okay. And I'm hopeful that he's neither bald nor green. (Hey, he'll be loved if he can just killed Lana. I know that much about the Smallville fandom). >:)

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Date: 2005-07-22 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Wow, just reading all that... and I'm confused. :)

Date: 2005-07-21 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellyhk.livejournal.com
*joins Lisa over in the uncool corner*

But hey, Smallville is still better than NoJobVille. Besides, a villain could be loads of campy fun.

Date: 2005-07-21 11:25 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2005-07-21 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
I still love 'em both.

But enthusiasm about anything is a bit tough today.

Date: 2005-07-22 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Understood. {{hug}}

Date: 2005-07-21 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calturner.livejournal.com
I'm in the JM corner with you. I couldn't care less what other people think, I like who I like. And so what if it's Smalleville? It could be a lot worse. At least he's working. Who knows what it could lead to. :)

Date: 2005-07-22 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Exactly!

Date: 2005-07-21 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikeylover.livejournal.com
HUGS you!!! YAY! I'm so glad you said that. If you dont' like JM, STFU and move on. Nobody is forcing you to stay in his fandom.

Date: 2005-07-22 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Exactly. And, thanks. :)

Date: 2005-07-21 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] appomattoxco.livejournal.com
I still love JM and Spike. Right now I wish I could find the old "I'm not going anywhere" icon. Though perhaps I'd follow him anywhere would be better suited.

Date: 2005-07-22 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
I think I used to have one of those, but I would have no clue where to find it now.

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Date: 2005-07-22 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nerys-ger.livejournal.com
Thank you for your rant, I agree with everything you said here and on BAPS.

I'm still very much a JM/Spike fan and I'm not disappointed or embarrassed in his choice of clothing, roles, girlfriends or him being hyper and goofy on talkshows.

Smalleville *squeeeee* That means downloads, screencaps, musicvids, spoilers and we will get it here in Germany. *squeeeeeeee*

Date: 2005-07-22 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Hee. Yes, I mean if we're lucky... leather pants of evil!

Date: 2005-07-22 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spike4anna.livejournal.com
Hi! I’ve accidentally stumbled upon your LJ and after reading the bit about JM I friended you so I can have as much of the news bout him as I can. I hope that you don't mind.

Anna

Date: 2005-07-22 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Sure. Great. Though I don't know that I know all that much. I do talk alot, though. :)

Date: 2005-07-22 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] euro-fics.livejournal.com
You know it's not like I have to PAY extra to watch Smallville. So why complain for the free pretty? I'm all over that. Easy enough to know in advance if he's gonna be onscreen or not.

Date: 2005-07-22 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenchurche.livejournal.com
So why complain for the free pretty?

Hee! I love how you phrased that!

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Date: 2005-07-22 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bubonicplague.livejournal.com
As one of the "doesn't really give a shit anymore" people, I still think you're cool. And I still read your posts. So there.

In all seriousness, having a passion for something is what drives my happiness. I use the word "obsession" to describe my little phases, but "passion" is the more correct term. I'll be absolutely devoted to one series/tv show/actor/character/author/musician, etc., and I'll just eat up everything I can get my hands on with regard to that passion. And then, eventually, I stumble upon something else that takes its place. The only thing that is really, truly depressing to me is not having a fascination that brings joy to my days.

So, guess what - if you still feel passionate about JM, that damn well makes you cool. You're enjoying something and reveling in it, and fuck any jaded asshole who tries to bring you down because of that. They're the miserable ones.

Date: 2005-07-22 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikeylover.livejournal.com
OMG, I totally get this. I'm still on the Marsters kick and don't see that going away anytime soon. When I get over that, it's because I am going to be obsessing over SOMETHING ELSE.

Still, I remember my old obsessions fondly and with love. The passion just isn't there anymore.

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Date: 2005-07-22 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenchurche.livejournal.com
Well, as you already know, I'm right there with you on the JM-love (and the Spike-love). It takes quite a lot for me to lose my fannish obsessions... in fact, I can't really think of any that have completely gone away.

I'm not big on "Smallville" but I did tend to enjoy the last five minutes of it I usually managed to catch ever week when it was on before AtS... and I can certainly think of more unwatchable shows he could have gotten a part on, and this role at least looks interesting. Hopefully something that will let him stretch himself a bit.

Date: 2005-07-22 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
The way I figure, if he can make it campy fun and torture some lame characters... hey, that sorta sounds like fun. No, it's not deep and engrossing. But campy and outrageous comes with less angst this year. Sounds good to me.

Date: 2005-07-22 02:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fishsanwitt
My Lord! Are people *still* bitching? They seriously need to get lives or something :)

I agree wholeheartedly with your post. I love JM and Spike. I'm grateful JM has a job on another high profile show. I actually like Smallville and I love Lex!

If someone no longer cares for JM, then they should do themselves a favour and just *move on*. Don't rain on my parade - I still love the guy and don't call me a loser for my passion and my views.

Date: 2005-07-22 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
To participate in fandom is to bitch, I think.

But, yeah, don't rain on my parade.

Date: 2005-07-22 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marajade71.livejournal.com
WORD!

I'll just be uncool nerd in the corner with you.

I like JM. There, I have said it. I think he's a nice, good looking, and very talented person and yes I am proud to be his fan.

Does that make me a freak? *shrug* so be it.

*raises her freak flag high*

Date: 2005-07-22 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deborahw37.livejournal.com
Loved this post and your posts on BAPS

it drives me insane when people claim to be over something but then redfuse to do the decent thing and sod off to the boards of their new obsession. Instead too many of then hang around to bitch and whine and try to convince other fans to agree with them

Sod it, I'm here for the long run. James is way more than a pretty face, a cool coat, a striking dye job. Hes an amazingly talented actor and one whose career is going to be worth watching for many years to come.

Oh and another thing * his* career , his choices .. I get pissed off beyond belief with people running down his manager, his acting choices , his lifestyle... whatever.

You know the guy has done pretty well so far making his own calls.


hmmm

turning into a rant

maybe later I'll turn it into a proper rant over on my LJ
been too long since I had a decent spot of violence lively debate

Date: 2005-07-22 10:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alwaysjbj.livejournal.com
I am not a Smallville fan in any way **shudder**... although I will probably watch it for JM! And NO it probably isn't a huge career move... however, as you say... it is work! So I don't see the big deal?! He doesn't come and offer his advice and/or opinions on our jobs so therefore as far as I am concerned we have no right to offer ours on his!

We may be fans (or not anymore in some people's cases I guess) but that does NOT give any of us the right to decide what he should or should not do with his life!

Date: 2005-07-28 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Exactly.

Date: 2005-07-22 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gamiila.livejournal.com
Smallville? I don't know the show, I don't think they show it here; but if JM's got a part in it, then I'm happy for him -- as you said, it's work, and he's too young to rest on his laurels.

Date: 2005-07-28 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
It's basically Teen Superman on the WB (AtS used to air after it). I mean, it's not Shakespeare, but it's a job. What's so horrible about that?

Date: 2005-07-28 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gamiila.livejournal.com
Nothing that I can see -- these are probably the same (kind of) people who scoffed at his playing a vampire with a life expectancy of 2, maybe 3 episodes on BtVS...

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