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Jul. 21st, 2005
Okay, first up, I don't read Harry Potter books. Not one. I've seen the movies and that's it. So to sum up: I ship no one in the Potterverse. I don't have a ship to sink or a reason to care. However, while lurking on Fandom_Wank, I followed the link to the JKR interview: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/extras/aa-jointerview2.html
Dude. It's giving me all kinds of Mutant Enemy flashbacks. Form the overly self-entitled "Theirs is the pure, true love forever, and we had an implicit PROMISE, damnit!" hissyfits of Harry/Hermione shippers. ; to my feeling sorry for shippers being called 'delusional' because been--there, done that. And it sucks-- to actually becoming a bit peeved at the pop-psychology lecture of liking a "bad boy." Now, I tend to agree with ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif){kind=small}
rahirah , I've never seen any indication that Draco was ever supposed to be seen as attractive except inasmuch as the little actor playing him is cute. The character's characteristics (as I admit I've only seen in the movies) have been uniformly distasteful. That said, DON'T MORALLY LECTURE YOUR READERSHIP. DON'T DRAW REAL-LIFE PARALLELS. These characters are fiction. Most people recognize that fact and their wanting to create something more complex doesn't indicate that the poor reader is some screwed-up, emotionally unfit fangirl. It isn't going to wreck their lives because -- here's the point -- the fictional character isn't real. Anything can happen with fictional characters. It's not indicative of someone wishing to go out and throw themselves at some prison inmate and snog because he's cute. It just isn't. Liking a fictional character isn't sick. Wanting to see a story take a path which expands a character may be misguided inasmuch as that's not a path the author intended to take. But there's nothing inately wrong with wanting a dark character to become more conflicted and multi-faceted... and it does not require lectures of superiority.
Sigh. Yes, I realize it's my Whedonverse experiences making me passionate on this issue. Truth is, I don't give a shit about Draco. Haven't read the books and found him to be a singularly nasty little git in the movies. I just hate writers pulling out pop-psychology bullshit and climbing up on a soapbox to give lectures about it. The characters are fictional and it's best if both author and fans remember that. Anything is possible in fiction and it's not a moral sin to deviate from authorial text.
However, I will say that the Potterverse is currently whipping its "batshit crazy" contingent into quite the lather. Glad I never had a ship in the race because things seem to be getting nasty in ways that are bringing back lots of bad memories.
::Pets Potter Fandom:: There, there. This too shall pass.
Okay, first up, I don't read Harry Potter books. Not one. I've seen the movies and that's it. So to sum up: I ship no one in the Potterverse. I don't have a ship to sink or a reason to care. However, while lurking on Fandom_Wank, I followed the link to the JKR interview: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/extras/aa-jointerview2.html
Dude. It's giving me all kinds of Mutant Enemy flashbacks. Form the overly self-entitled "Theirs is the pure, true love forever, and we had an implicit PROMISE, damnit!" hissyfits of Harry/Hermione shippers. ; to my feeling sorry for shippers being called 'delusional' because been--there, done that. And it sucks-- to actually becoming a bit peeved at the pop-psychology lecture of liking a "bad boy." Now, I tend to agree with rahirah , I've never seen any indication that Draco was ever supposed to be seen as attractive except inasmuch as the little actor playing him is cute. The character's characteristics (as I admit I've only seen in the movies) have been uniformly distasteful. That said, DON'T MORALLY LECTURE YOUR READERSHIP. DON'T DRAW REAL-LIFE PARALLELS. These characters are fiction. Most people recognize that fact and their wanting to create something more complex doesn't indicate that the poor reader is some screwed-up, emotionally unfit fangirl. It isn't going to wreck their lives because -- here's the point -- the fictional character isn't real. Anything can happen with fictional characters. It's not indicative of someone wishing to go out and throw themselves at some prison inmate and snog because he's cute. It just isn't. Liking a fictional character isn't sick. Wanting to see a story take a path which expands a character may be misguided inasmuch as that's not a path the author intended to take. But there's nothing inately wrong with wanting a dark character to become more conflicted and multi-faceted... and it does not require lectures of superiority.
Sigh. Yes, I realize it's my Whedonverse experiences making me passionate on this issue. Truth is, I don't give a shit about Draco. Haven't read the books and found him to be a singularly nasty little git in the movies. I just hate writers pulling out pop-psychology bullshit and climbing up on a soapbox to give lectures about it. The characters are fictional and it's best if both author and fans remember that. Anything is possible in fiction and it's not a moral sin to deviate from authorial text.
However, I will say that the Potterverse is currently whipping its "batshit crazy" contingent into quite the lather. Glad I never had a ship in the race because things seem to be getting nasty in ways that are bringing back lots of bad memories.
::Pets Potter Fandom:: There, there. This too shall pass.
Okay, first up, I don't read Harry Potter books. Not one. I've seen the movies and that's it. So to sum up: I ship no one in the Potterverse. I don't have a ship to sink or a reason to care. However, while lurking on Fandom_Wank, I followed the link to the JKR interview: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/extras/aa-jointerview2.html
Dude. It's giving me all kinds of Mutant Enemy flashbacks. Form the overly self-entitled "Theirs is the pure, true love forever, and we had an implicit PROMISE, damnit!" hissyfits of Harry/Hermione shippers. ; to my feeling sorry for shippers being called 'delusional' because been--there, done that. And it sucks-- to actually becoming a bit peeved at the pop-psychology lecture of liking a "bad boy." Now, I tend to agree with rahirah , I've never seen any indication that Draco was ever supposed to be seen as attractive except inasmuch as the little actor playing him is cute. The character's characteristics (as I admit I've only seen in the movies) have been uniformly distasteful. That said, DON'T MORALLY LECTURE YOUR READERSHIP. DON'T DRAW REAL-LIFE PARALLELS. These characters are fiction. Most people recognize that fact and their wanting to create something more complex doesn't indicate that the poor reader is some screwed-up, emotionally unfit fangirl. It isn't going to wreck their lives because -- here's the point -- the fictional character isn't real. Anything can happen with fictional characters. It's not indicative of someone wishing to go out and throw themselves at some prison inmate and snog because he's cute. It just isn't. Liking a fictional character isn't sick. Wanting to see a story take a path which expands a character may be misguided inasmuch as that's not a path the author intended to take. But there's nothing inately wrong with wanting a dark character to become more conflicted and multi-faceted... and it does not require lectures of superiority.
Sigh. Yes, I realize it's my Whedonverse experiences making me passionate on this issue. Truth is, I don't give a shit about Draco. Haven't read the books and found him to be a singularly nasty little git in the movies. I just hate writers pulling out pop-psychology bullshit and climbing up on a soapbox to give lectures about it. The characters are fictional and it's best if both author and fans remember that. Anything is possible in fiction and it's not a moral sin to deviate from authorial text.
However, I will say that the Potterverse is currently whipping its "batshit crazy" contingent into quite the lather. Glad I never had a ship in the race because things seem to be getting nasty in ways that are bringing back lots of bad memories.
::Pets Potter Fandom:: There, there. This too shall pass.
Yes, I'm Still a JM Fan.
Jul. 21st, 2005 05:12 pmI guess I'm just not 'cool.' I still like JM. Sorry. I'll just be the 'out of it' nerd in the corner.
Smallville isn't exactly a huge career move. I honestly never gave a damn about the show but, so what? Who am I to judge? It's work. It might be fun, and I'm pedestrian enough to be okay with that. Besides, I don't watch anything else on Thursday.
If you've entered the "I don't give a shit about JM" phase (or the "I actively dislike JM" phase). I understand. But, I'm going to be lame enough to still talk about him. (Er, guess it shows that I'm still grumpy. Apologies. It'll pass. And no. None of that is directed at any one person, just peevishness at the general direction of the rhetoric in the remnants of the fandom. If I've miffed someone, I'm genuinely sorry. It's not personal. No intent to offend).
ETA: Wrongda is reporting that a WB rep denied that JM is going to be on Smallville. WB rep also said thaqt the WB had offered to do AtS movies but Joss turned it down. Who is shocked by this? And who can tell who is trying to pin it on who more? It's the most mentioned movie no one ever wanted to make. Well, other than "Superman Lives."Yes, I'm Still a JM Fan.
Jul. 21st, 2005 05:12 pmI guess I'm just not 'cool.' I still like JM. Sorry. I'll just be the 'out of it' nerd in the corner.
Smallville isn't exactly a huge career move. I honestly never gave a damn about the show but, so what? Who am I to judge? It's work. It might be fun, and I'm pedestrian enough to be okay with that. Besides, I don't watch anything else on Thursday.
If you've entered the "I don't give a shit about JM" phase (or the "I actively dislike JM" phase). I understand. But, I'm going to be lame enough to still talk about him. (Er, guess it shows that I'm still grumpy. Apologies. It'll pass. And no. None of that is directed at any one person, just peevishness at the general direction of the rhetoric in the remnants of the fandom. If I've miffed someone, I'm genuinely sorry. It's not personal. No intent to offend).
ETA: Wrongda is reporting that a WB rep denied that JM is going to be on Smallville. WB rep also said thaqt the WB had offered to do AtS movies but Joss turned it down. Who is shocked by this? And who can tell who is trying to pin it on who more? It's the most mentioned movie no one ever wanted to make. Well, other than "Superman Lives."Yes, I'm Still a JM Fan.
Jul. 21st, 2005 05:12 pmI guess I'm just not 'cool.' I still like JM. Sorry. I'll just be the 'out of it' nerd in the corner.
Smallville isn't exactly a huge career move. I honestly never gave a damn about the show but, so what? Who am I to judge? It's work. It might be fun, and I'm pedestrian enough to be okay with that. Besides, I don't watch anything else on Thursday.
If you've entered the "I don't give a shit about JM" phase (or the "I actively dislike JM" phase). I understand. But, I'm going to be lame enough to still talk about him. (Er, guess it shows that I'm still grumpy. Apologies. It'll pass. And no. None of that is directed at any one person, just peevishness at the general direction of the rhetoric in the remnants of the fandom. If I've miffed someone, I'm genuinely sorry. It's not personal. No intent to offend).
ETA: Wrongda is reporting that a WB rep denied that JM is going to be on Smallville. WB rep also said thaqt the WB had offered to do AtS movies but Joss turned it down. Who is shocked by this? And who can tell who is trying to pin it on who more? It's the most mentioned movie no one ever wanted to make. Well, other than "Superman Lives."