My instinct with the First was always that it wanted a world where evil was present to such an extent that it could manifest itself, but I say 'instinct' because I have absolutely nothing to back it up. It's plan seemed to be to wipe out the Slayer line, which I suppose would reduce the level of good, and then releasing the Turok Han, presumably to create a world of pain and terror where evil naturally grows out of the circumstances. Of course, in such a situation I'd like to have enough faith in humanity to assume a sort of blitz spirit would kick in and evil wouldn't prevail in humans, but I'm not sure the First thinks that much. Maybe it simply wants to destroy humans, so that all that remains are the evil demons, which would still achieve its ends... Then, presumably, it would proceed to other dimensions - if the universe is infinite, then it's working for infinite gain, destroying until it can manifest itself in as many dimensions as possible until the end of time. I mean, if you take the First to be a sort of religiously-neutral version of Satan you get down to Milton's 'only in destroying do I find ease to my relentless thoughts' idea, where it's out to destroy simply for the purpose of destruction. But for some reason I still have the desire to manifest in my head, and I don't know where from.
W&H seemed to want to have an interest in everything, with their goal presumably being to make the most profit for them and to make their lives as easy as possible. I think that the apocalypse that they're always talking about is not the one that Angel induces - despite the number of times 'apocalypse' is used in the show, I think it has a different meaning, somehow, when they use it. If I wanted to wildly speculate, I'd go down some tangent where at the end of its time each world/universe spontaneously turns into either a heavenly or hellish dimension for other souls to be carted into from the middle worlds, and the actual apocalypse isn't something that can be averted, but instead something where either the hell-gods have a new dominion or the good-gods get it (we don't really hear very much about them, but I'm assuming they exist). W&H, therefore, would still be grooming the world for that event, but since the Senior Partners' plans aren't as personal as the First's, if they were left to their own devices they would go about it a lot more subtly, trying to subvert humanity itself as opposed to squishing it. I think W&H would be clever enough to work out that if they tried to actively oppress humanity then it wouldn't work, but if they let them drag themselves into a pit of sin instead it would be much more effective.
no subject
My instinct with the First was always that it wanted a world where evil was present to such an extent that it could manifest itself, but I say 'instinct' because I have absolutely nothing to back it up. It's plan seemed to be to wipe out the Slayer line, which I suppose would reduce the level of good, and then releasing the Turok Han, presumably to create a world of pain and terror where evil naturally grows out of the circumstances. Of course, in such a situation I'd like to have enough faith in humanity to assume a sort of blitz spirit would kick in and evil wouldn't prevail in humans, but I'm not sure the First thinks that much. Maybe it simply wants to destroy humans, so that all that remains are the evil demons, which would still achieve its ends... Then, presumably, it would proceed to other dimensions - if the universe is infinite, then it's working for infinite gain, destroying until it can manifest itself in as many dimensions as possible until the end of time. I mean, if you take the First to be a sort of religiously-neutral version of Satan you get down to Milton's 'only in destroying do I find ease to my relentless thoughts' idea, where it's out to destroy simply for the purpose of destruction. But for some reason I still have the desire to manifest in my head, and I don't know where from.
W&H seemed to want to have an interest in everything, with their goal presumably being to make the most profit for them and to make their lives as easy as possible. I think that the apocalypse that they're always talking about is not the one that Angel induces - despite the number of times 'apocalypse' is used in the show, I think it has a different meaning, somehow, when they use it. If I wanted to wildly speculate, I'd go down some tangent where at the end of its time each world/universe spontaneously turns into either a heavenly or hellish dimension for other souls to be carted into from the middle worlds, and the actual apocalypse isn't something that can be averted, but instead something where either the hell-gods have a new dominion or the good-gods get it (we don't really hear very much about them, but I'm assuming they exist). W&H, therefore, would still be grooming the world for that event, but since the Senior Partners' plans aren't as personal as the First's, if they were left to their own devices they would go about it a lot more subtly, trying to subvert humanity itself as opposed to squishing it. I think W&H would be clever enough to work out that if they tried to actively oppress humanity then it wouldn't work, but if they let them drag themselves into a pit of sin instead it would be much more effective.
[More bollocks to follow...]