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shipperx ([personal profile] shipperx) wrote2011-08-24 09:23 pm

GOT Casting

Podrick Payne has been cast for Season 2

Yeesh.  GRRM really has written a cast of thousands (I say after digging through all of the --even now!-- NEW characters in ADwD!)

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeesh. GRRM really has written a cast of thousands (I say after digging through all of the yet NEW characters in ADwD!)

You are not wrong. I'm currently reading Feast of Crows and so far he's added ten new characters that I'd never heard of before or were merely referred to. Will state that I rather like the Dorne Warrior Princesses - or Sand Snakes - Obara, Tyrene, and the one with the long black hair. He has too many characters for me to remember all these names, have enough troubles remembering the names and faces of everyone at work.

I swear the man feels a need to write a chapter on everyone. People compare it to the Lord of the Rings, but I don't remember Tolkien having quite this many characters.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Should clarify...I'm only about 50 pages into Feast...which is one of the shorter books at 699 or so pages. And I'm certain a lot more characters will be added shortly. Right now we have three new pov characters.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
One thing I learned in AFFC... Cersei does not improve on better acquaintance.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Not surprising. GRRM doesn't do female villains well. Lyssa was way over the top too. The TV show is actually doing a better job with Cersei, or it could just be the actress - Lena Hedley - who makes the character a bit more layered and subtle, as opposed to merely whiny and nasty.

It's a shame, both Jamie and Tyrion are relatively layered and complex, while Ceresi feels one-dimensional in the books. By the end of the third book, I wondered if she ever loved anyone other than power and herself? It's not clear that she even cares that much about her kids. And she appears to be using Jamie or attempting to. Ceresi seems to be all about power and little else. Which makes her uninteresting and somewhat flat. Apparently that doesn't change in Feast? Sad. Maybe it will in the TV series...they appear to be veering ever so slightly away from the books in some respects, which is not a bad thing.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2011-08-26 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Not surprising. GRRM doesn't do female villains well. Lyssa was way over the top too. Given the Boltons, I think he goes for hard core 'evil' sometimes.

Melisandre seems to have some more sincerity in her than I would've guessed from ASoS. (Which doesn't mean she's good, but I don't think she considers herself to be evil... not that Cersei does either, but I think Cersei knows that other people believe she is.

My problem with Cersei is that she seemed far more sly before we got were introduced to her thought process. (If they can be called that). And, no, I don't think she ever loved anyone but herself... and possibly Joffrey.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I know! I flipped when I went into a chapter and -- Oh for God's sake! A character that had appeared for the first time in Tyrion's POV a few chapter's earlier is now a POV character giving his entire freaking life history! Seriously, GRRM, I did not need to know!

On the other hand, I think Asha has finally grown on me.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee. I will give him a little credit on Feast, at least so far, each of the characters do actually move the plot forward. We have the prologue guy who gets (I'm not entirely sure what) by a magician. (I'm guessing killed in some icky way - it's not clear.) And then the religious prophet guy who is the leader of the Drowned Men, (Greyjoy's bro), who is well into drowning everyone to renewal them (sort of takes baptism to a whole new and deeply sadistic level - methinks GRRM has issues with religion) where we're told that it just is not right for a warrior princess to become Queen (Asha, who they changed the name of in the tv show, they also appear to have changed one of Kevin Lannister's kids names to Alton.). And finally the Captain of the Guard of the Prince of Dorn named Hotah? Who is annoyed with the Prince's nieces - who all want war with the Lannisters, because they blame the Lannisters for their father's death (they aren't entirely wrong about that - except, seriously, wait ladies, the Lannisters will do themselves in due time, no need to exert yourselves. Heck they are already well on their way.)

I haven't even gotten to any of the characters from the last three books yet (including Cersei). (Which is why waiting six months to a year between these books doesn't really matter all that much.) It's all brand new characters. Sometimes this story feels a bit like an anthology serial or a collection of short stories and novels and novels all interconnected.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2011-08-26 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
methinks GRRM has issues with religion
Ya think? ;)

Right now I'm reading Melisandre's chapter in ADwD, and even in earlier novels it was clear she'd gone the religious fanatic over R'hellor route. It seems that every religion has it's fanatics in GRRM-land. Which... actually, that's probably true.

where we're told that it just is not right for a warrior princess to become Queen (Asha

She's still working on that... if she didn't die at the last cliffhanger. (But I don't think she did. I haven't skimmed ahead, so I'm just guessing. But I don't think she is. Just like I didn't buy that Tyrion was dead in the two chapters that made it sound like he'd been killed.)

I think I'm still in the part that's catching up to the end of AFfC. The first half of ADwD is supposed to be taking place at the same time as AFfC just from POV's absent from AFfC. The last half is supposed to actually progress the time frame so some of the characters absent in the first half will begin appearing again in the second.)
Edited 2011-08-26 01:10 (UTC)