I do agree that Joss has a pretty damn bleak outlook ant it shows in his stories. I also think that he set up a premise (vampires=bad and even if they're good, they can't be forgiven) and was totally unwilling budge.
As for J&J, you have realize that must be viewed through Days' Soap lens which takes into account that by virtue of the show it's on, is mostly campy, usually silly, always outrageous, and bizarrely founded on a downright B/A "duckian" belief in "soulmates for life". . .and I fell in love with the couple 15 years ago when I was but a teen myself (hope that explains my warped affection for it).
Basically, it was the old story of boy [whose biological father abused his sons and molested his daughter and whose adoptive father was a U.S. Senator turned serial killer leaving boy with a fortune and a deep seeded belief that he was born a bad guy due to both nature and nurture] meets girl [virginal, idealistic, ingenue cub reporter] 15 year old clip courtesy of Denialvillle (http://www.denialville.com/video/first.wmv) (Get a load of the computer on his desk. ROFL!)
Girl sees soft, mushy underbelly of rich, bad boy and falls in love. Boy resists mightily because he believes he isn't the kind of man such a pristine girl should fall for (plus, he's her boss). Another 15 year old clip courtesy of Denialville (http://www.denialville.com/video/perfect.wmv)
Girl desperately tries to convince boy that he can be his own (good) man, free of the destructive influence of his homocidal father. Yet another 15 year old clip (http://www.denialville.com/video/ibiy_kiss.wmv) And that almost works until...
Boy has to kill adoptive father to prevent father from murdering boy's biological brother.
Boy becomes 100% convinced that he must be evil and pushes girl away.
Girl became angry--very, very angry (long story which involves missing heriesses, angry oil barons, tiaras, ball gowns, and the murder of the boy's brother) until boy (dressed as guard to slip into unnamed foreign embassy where girl is held captive) has emotional epiphany and admits the truth. Another ancient clip (http://www.denialville.com/video/embassy.wmv) and another (http://www.denialville.com/video/tunnel.wmv)
Boy and girl survive shipwreck, train wreck, earthquake, Eve Donovan, Lawrence Alamain, and other natural disasters before finally walking down the aisle (which in this case happened to have been located in a rodeo arena. Don't ask.). Add in bankruptcy, a cancer scare, the birth of a daughter named Abigail (who had a rare disease that once miraculously cured has never been mentioned again), a divorce, girl marrying someone else (someone Eeeeeeevillll), their re-marriage, yadda, yadda, yadda as 15 years come and go. And boy (er...man) gets "murdered" by serial killer. Musical Montage Courtesy of Denialville (http://www.sjipendergraft.com/jj/scientist.wmv)
Now, Girl...er...woman is 9 1/2 months pregnant with their second child (yes, you read that right. And it's a supposedly "high risk" pregnancy too. LOL!) and has literally fallen off a cliff and-- whoopsie! Dead hubby isn't dead (he's just been held captive for the last 9 months)! And, dressed like Indiana Jones, he's coming to the rescue.
ROFL! Rememeber I warned that it was all rather outrageously (okay, embarrassingly) silly and outrageous. But the wacky, wacked out, overwrought paring still tugs nostalgically at the heartstrings of my inner teenager who was once upon a time sighed over "twu wuv 4 eva." :)
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Re: Redemption
Date: 2004-07-07 07:57 pm (UTC)As for J&J, you have realize that must be viewed through Days' Soap lens which takes into account that by virtue of the show it's on, is mostly campy, usually silly, always outrageous, and bizarrely founded on a downright B/A "duckian" belief in "soulmates for life". . .and I fell in love with the couple 15 years ago when I was but a teen myself (hope that explains my warped affection for it).
Basically, it was the old story of boy [whose biological father abused his sons and molested his daughter and whose adoptive father was a U.S. Senator turned serial killer leaving boy with a fortune and a deep seeded belief that he was born a bad guy due to both nature and nurture] meets girl [virginal, idealistic, ingenue cub reporter]
15 year old clip courtesy of Denialvillle (http://www.denialville.com/video/first.wmv) (Get a load of the computer on his desk. ROFL!)
Girl sees soft, mushy underbelly of rich, bad boy and falls in love. Boy resists mightily because he believes he isn't the kind of man such a pristine girl should fall for (plus, he's her boss).
Another 15 year old clip courtesy of Denialville (http://www.denialville.com/video/perfect.wmv)
Girl desperately tries to convince boy that he can be his own (good) man, free of the destructive influence of his homocidal father.
Yet another 15 year old clip (http://www.denialville.com/video/ibiy_kiss.wmv) And that almost works until...
Boy has to kill adoptive father to prevent father from murdering boy's biological brother.
Boy becomes 100% convinced that he must be evil and pushes girl away.
Girl became angry--very, very angry (long story which involves missing heriesses, angry oil barons, tiaras, ball gowns, and the murder of the boy's brother) until boy (dressed as guard to slip into unnamed foreign embassy where girl is held captive) has emotional epiphany and admits the truth.
Another ancient clip (http://www.denialville.com/video/embassy.wmv) and another (http://www.denialville.com/video/tunnel.wmv)
Boy and girl survive shipwreck, train wreck, earthquake, Eve Donovan, Lawrence Alamain, and other natural disasters before finally walking down the aisle (which in this case happened to have been located in a rodeo arena. Don't ask.). Add in bankruptcy, a cancer scare, the birth of a daughter named Abigail (who had a rare disease that once miraculously cured has never been mentioned again), a divorce, girl marrying someone else (someone Eeeeeeevillll), their re-marriage, yadda, yadda, yadda as 15 years come and go. And boy (er...man) gets "murdered" by serial killer.
Musical Montage Courtesy of Denialville (http://www.sjipendergraft.com/jj/scientist.wmv)
Now, Girl...er...woman is 9 1/2 months pregnant with their second child (yes, you read that right. And it's a supposedly "high risk" pregnancy too. LOL!) and has literally fallen off a cliff and-- whoopsie! Dead hubby isn't dead (he's just been held captive for the last 9 months)! And, dressed like Indiana Jones, he's coming to the rescue.
ROFL! Rememeber I warned that it was all rather outrageously (okay, embarrassingly) silly and outrageous. But the wacky, wacked out, overwrought paring still tugs nostalgically at the heartstrings of my inner teenager who was once upon a time sighed over "twu wuv 4 eva." :)
Girl (is forced to) marries someone else.