BtVS Comics?

[shipperx]

So it's going around ( a bit more seriously) that they may (are?) setting up Buffy/Xander pairing in the comics.

Why is it that my first urge is to laugh? ...Kind of an evil laugh, but laugh all the same.

Comments

[jerrymcl89.livejournal.com]

I don't think Joss is setting that up at all, although I guess he's toying with it the way cats toy with mice. In today's issue, he has some random, as yet unnamed newbie Slayer crushing on Xander, so I'm sure he has some long-term plans for that.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I think the urge to laugh is that I have this deep seeded belief that Joss toys with all shippers like cats with mice... or maybe like cats with those little green lizards. You know, the ones where cats bite off their tails but not kill them... at least not right away.

[swsa.livejournal.com]

I don't really think he's setting it up, but just throwing it out there annoys me enough. I'm already annoyed enough with Xander the Super Stud Who Wears Spike's Clothes and Gives Orders Like a Real Man. I don't need the Xander that Buffy has sex dreams about too.

I am amused that it took being actor-less and not having real access to Angel and Spike to get Xander any Buffy action though. The amusement is just lessened when I imagine the glee of all the Xanderistas that used to drive me insane.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

The Xanderistas are the big part of any irritation I feel about it. But I have to admit to basically viewing this as Joss's version of fanfic. I think that's because it's such a change in medium that I can't think of it as quite the same thing as the show. It's just another fanfic universe for me, one that leans somewhat toward what I find most snarkily amusing about Jossian tendencies.

[petzipellepingo.livejournal.com]

I am amused that it took being actor-less and not having real access to Angel and Spike to get Xander any Buffy action though.
Nods. That's pretty much my reaction to this. And if all those B/X people think their dream has finally come true... well, let me point out what happened to B/A and B/S.

[spike4anna.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure what to think. One one side I got this theory that it is some waked out Buffy's dream of finding her true love. On the other side, Joss bringing Buffy and Xander together. Don't get me wrong, I am no way a Xander/Buffy fan, I am all about the Spuffy, but Joss did say that at the beginning, he was thinking about bring this two characters together. So I think that maybe now he trying that out. Ether way, I can't wait of the next issue.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I can't see Joss penning a romantic happy ending for anyone, mainly because he never has (well, except for Riley and Kennedy which...well, that sort of speaks for itself).

[ladycat713.livejournal.com]

My laughter was more of the hysterical variety and accompanied by nausea.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Just think of all the ways it will inevitably go horrible wrong... like the first time Buffy clocks him, she breaks his arm.

[queenofattolia.livejournal.com]

So she "missed her chance"* with him in the actual series, so now Joss is getting his wish and pairing her with his alter-ego? You're right; it's laughable. But as Xander has now magically morphed into a swaggering, eyepatch-wearing romance novel hero, how can she resist? Snerk.

*Actual "Hell's Bells" dialogue cut from the final shooting script - remember?

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, just stumbled on this blog and I hope you don't mind an alternative opinion.

I think, like most episodes of the show, and seasons, Joss has been showing how these characters grow. I don't think Xander has magically morphed - he's still the goofy guy he always was - making jokes, wearing the ducky pjs. But he's lived a life, lost a love, watched the people around him and the pain they've gone through and stood by them.

I'm not saying that he deserves Buffy because he's Mr. Dependable or something. But as somebody who started off as a goofy boy and learned to be a man, I get how Xander could be more attractive to women now. He's grown. Spike was a Xanderish kinda guy until he got bitten by Druisilla - not everyone is lucky enough to get bitten by a vampire to turn into a suave and sexy guy. Most men have to learn how to be charming and confident.

And maybe, just maybe, somebody might take a second look at a more confident Xander, who's fulfilling the watcher role that he seemed primed for in earlier season before he, like most of the characters, lost his way.

But let's face it. There's no happy ever afters in the Joss world, because, well, Joss is evil. But not only that but because it's dramatically boring to have people in a happy relationship. That's why people kiss and live happily ever after at the end. We don't get see the rest of that stuff.

Anyway, awesome fandom. Love that you guys are digging the book. Hope you don't mind my intrusion into your world. Thanks for listening.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I vaguely remember.

I'm just shocked that people can actually convince themselves that Joss does anything but cynically hand out cookie crumbs to keep all the shipping factions hopeful, dissatisfied, and at each others throats.

[thedeadlyhook.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I just saw the second issue today. Spoilers below, so don't look if you don't want to know...










Not only is there a young Slayer who's crushing on Xander, but there's a dream sequence with Buffy hitting on Xander (Buffy's dream, not his), that strongly impliles that either a) this has actually happened before or that b) she's at least thought about it. But then in that same dream, we also get the appearance of either Spike or Angel (I'm guessing - the figure is headless, so it's still being played coy), who calls her "my love," so it looks to me like ol' Joss is just mashing every 'shipper button simultaneously to get a response.

[shapinglight]

Yes! I knew Angel's little finger (or the equivalent) would get a look-in in issue 2 after we got Spike's boots in 1.

I get the issue later today so haven't read this yet but it sounds to me that Joss is trying to make out Buffy is just completely randy because she'd not getting any.

[swsa.livejournal.com]

I'm really wondering if the headless figure is Dracula. It being Spike is just too much of a crumb to throw.

I seriously hate how creepy wish-fulfillment this whole series has been towards Xander thus far. The dreamy romantic hero depiction of him in the drawing, the girl crushing on him, the way he gets to be all man in charge with even Buffy calling him a "Watcher", and now Buffy's lusting after him? And comedic/disturbing as it might be shown as, putting it in there is way too deliberate for me to write off.

um, bullshit?

[klytaimnestra.livejournal.com]

Have read the first one. Which I loved. And nothing is clearer than the fact that Joss really DOESN'T have any interested in the romances. Really doesn't. That just isn't his point. She may wind up, any of them may wind up, involved with someone at some point, for awhile, but only if it furthers the main story - which won't be a ship.

And I saw no sign whatever of Buffy/Xander incidentally.

Re: um, bullshit?

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I completely agree that Joss doesn't give a flip about any of the romances. Oh, he'll throw crumbs out to get a reaction, but he doesn't invest in them. That's why he can so easily toy with all of them (without ever taking a definitive stand).

I'm sure he'll toy with B/X. But he isn't going to be kind enough to put an end with also toying with B/A and B/S... and it's really not about any of them. Joss doesn't care about the ships. They're means to and end for him, and such controversies are efforts to get sales.

(Yeah, I'm that cynical about the Whedonverse. >:)

[paratti.livejournal.com]

I am so glad I'm not reading this dreck.

[marajade71.livejournal.com]

Took the words out of my mouth.

[mlgm.livejournal.com]

How long after the end of the show is this supposed to be? I mean, did Xander mourn poor Anya at all? Even a month or two?

[swsa.livejournal.com]

Xander hasn't actually done anything. Nope, it's all Buffy having sex dreams about him. Which is really in keeping with her relationship with him on the show SO perfectly. Ugh.

I totally buy it, that's what Joss always wanted

[katelennon.livejournal.com]

He always said that he first envisioned Buffy with Xander. But then Angel was soooo popular and then Xander/Cordelia was a stroke of genius and then blah, blah, blah... If Xander still looks like Nick Fury, hell, I'll do Xander in the town square on Sunday..

Re: I totally buy it, that's what Joss always wanted

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

As I'm not really reading the comics (not in a "Pay for" way only in a "whatever hits the web for free" way) he's still old Xander to me. I can't take the eyepatch wearing seriously. He just can't morph out of his BtVS persona to me. I like Nick Brendan, but I just can't really see B/X working long term (well, heck, I'm not sure that Buffy + Anyone would work out long term. It's just that B/X has its own set of problems that I find less interesting dramatically than the sets of problems she already has. If I were forecasting a B/X pairing in my head, it just seems like it would finally allow Xander to shag his dreamgirl, but eventually would lead to all places messy (as Buffy relationships do) and eventually kill a perfectly okay friendship.

But this is Jossian fanfic that doesn't have to lead anywhere so, knowing Joss, it won't. He isn't kind enough to set the B/Aers or the S/Bers free.

[sunryse00.livejournal.com]

Since I've said it so often I've now decided that I'll let icon Buffy say it for me...

[(Anonymous)]

Hey do you Joss will brave enough to draw Season 7 Xander plumby with love handles in a love scene with Buffy.
Oh i forgot , comic Xander is just an ideaized version of Spike for Buffy to scratch her itch with.

Xander run far far away, she only break your heart like everyone else she used!

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Nah. Xander can stay. Considering the way that Xander has treated his love interests and the way that Buffy manages mangle hers, there is a level of safety in hooking them up. At least no one else gets hurt.

(Not that I think that Joss will do anything but string along all shipper factions. So anyone waiting for anything definitive will be waiting a really, really long time.)

[quinara]

Looking at the comic, it seems to me that the Xander Buffy was kissing was just a handy representative in Buffy's subconscious for the 'normal' man that she can't date. Of course, my brain may just have all defence shields up.

What was more interesting to me was the bit at the back that reckoned that Spike and Angel were going to be mentioned next issue (and we're going to get an image burned onto our brains that, apparently, some of us won't want to get rid of... I wonder what that might be? :P).

I saw your comment on killerweasel's journal about Andrew... I have no idea what the artist was thinking.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure that Joss will continue dangling the vampire carrots out there so that the fandom can continue fighting the shipper battles. That's why I think it's hilarious when shipper factions declare victory. Dude, Joss is never going to cut out the other shippers. He wants to drag everyone along.

And seriously, comic Andrew doesn't look anything like RealAndrew. Same goes for Giles.

[darynthe.livejournal.com]

What? But they have like zero sexual chemistry? However could this be pulled off? Ewww, it would be like incest. ::shakes head::

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Well, the total and complete lack of chemistry isn't as big of an issue when there are no actors involved and when Xander has had a complete character overhaaul and... uh... yeah. I'm still not convinced that it could ever work.

[killerweasel.livejournal.com]

I doubt that they'll end up being together. There aren't exactly a whole heap of menfolk running around in that Slayer place, just Giles (that wuold be like her ith her father so ew on that from me), Andrew (*shudders*), or Xander.

If they do end up with a Buffy/Xander thing, they'll probably kill him because anyone normal who ends up with her either gets hurt, dead, or has to leave the city because otherwise there's too much drama.

[tnmisery.livejournal.com]

My masochistic fangirl tendencies are now screaming for me to read this crap. B/X? Oh, gag.

Hehee, I'm so glad I'm not the only one still awed (and bitter) about Joss's inability to contain his "I am your GOD and I shall fuck with you!!11!" tendencies. grrr...

*Shatner*

Don't...want...to.CARE!!!

:P