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Aug. 31st, 2009 09:45 pm
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Being Human (Season Finale)
Question: Is George's girlfriend a werewolf? She looks like she's been attacked by one but she didn't turn with the full moon. Is she one who can (Oz's dream) control it? Or has she been cured? Or did the were-ing not take?



Mad Men
Poor Joan. Her husband is a dick. Of course most of the husbands on Mad Men are. LOL at how very good Pete and Trudy are at doing the Charleston. That was the impressive. Roger serenading Jane -- in blackface! -- was jaw droppingly shocking there for a minute. I kept looking at the waiters wondering if there was one that was going to spit in all of their food. Although, if they take Don's suggestion they'll be peeing in their trunks. The Peggy/Pot scenes were of some interest. And Don and Betty's daughter is gonna be such trouble in 1969. You know it!



True Blood
Okay, Vampire Queen was funny. You know she's going to be batshit crazy, but thus far enjoyable crazy. Thought her day room -- where she made Bill 'sun' himself -- was hilarious. The Andy/Jason scenes were also hilarious and Jason kept explaining how his life was so difficult. Sookie's 'plans' are about as ill thought out as Buffy's. And there was some serious time slippage going on. It was daylight when she was walking toward the house and was dark by the time she reached the door, and it really wasn't that far! Am curious what will happen with Jessica and Hoyte, and yet again Hoyte's mom proved what a bitch she is. Now, for my UO. I know that half of fandom is in love with Eric but, for myself, I know that he's written as 'nicer' or whatever in the book, but in the show thus far I still feel he hasn't been given adequate character development for me to actually care. The Godric stuff was a start, but it's been completely ignored thus far. And all his other actions come of as calculated, not emotional. The actor is good looking and he has some interesting moments. I see potential, but if True Blood wants me to care they need to develop Eric so that I have some grasp of what -- if anything -- he actually feels and then give me some reasons to care. Otherwise, he's just mostly pretty. Come on, True Blood. Camp only takes me so far. Give me a reasons to care. [/UO]



OLTL
Fish came 'out' today and, while it is perhaps unrealistic that Layla forgives all that easily and wants him to stay as roommate (because wouldn't that be a tad awkward -- since they've had sex -- for a little while?) I'm still glad she did. I'm glad that Fish will continue to be roomies with Layla and Cris, because it's a soap town and so it's always communal living, and I like this particular three's company. So, to hell with realism, I was happy that they're verging on a group hug. Of course, Fish has already gotten himself in more trouble than he knows, but that's a soap for you. :) Elsewhere -- Blair has become a fucking idiot. Why in the hell would she even begin to fight for Todd? And, frankly, I haven't budged an inch from wishing that Todd would just DIE!"

Date: 2009-09-01 02:47 am (UTC)
rahirah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rahirah
I think your HTML is borked.

But if werewolfery is a contagious disease, so to speak, it may be that there is a cure, and she's an ex-werewolf. Of course, since she's not rushing to tell George about it, it may be a cure-is-worse-than-the-disease situation.

Date: 2009-09-01 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Thanks. Fixed it.

It's a pretty good sort of "hmmm... explain this to me" cliffhanger with her revealing (to the audience) a scar that matchs George's.
Edited Date: 2009-09-01 02:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-01 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sueworld2003.livejournal.com
Which episode are you taking about? Do you mean the scar she showed Geaorge or something else?

Date: 2009-09-01 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
In the final episode (6?) where she went to the bathroom. We had seen the scar that she had shown George several times. But in the bathroom she removed her shirt and she had virtually the same scratch mark that George has.

Date: 2009-09-01 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sueworld2003.livejournal.com
Well I took that as the pay off for the previous scene with her asking George about being a werewolf. She already knew by then she had been scratched by him, and already suspected that she is now also cursed.

Date: 2009-09-01 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Next time I shouldn't watch a show just on YouTube. The screen is too small. I didn't see her get scratched.

Date: 2009-09-01 03:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elsaf
I thought they were implying that George had scratched her that evening. But maybe I'm wrong. I'll have to go back and watch again.

Date: 2009-09-01 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's what I thought, too. She's been "infected;" she'll probably turn during the next full moon.

There's a viral video of George's "infection" floating around on YouTube, and it seems to indicate that he was scratched during a full moon but did not turn then, only on subsequent ones. And FYI, there are also Mitchell and Annie videos as well.

All I have to say is, poor Nina.

Date: 2009-09-01 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Since I watched the episode off of YouTube, I guess the screen was too small. I didn't see her get scatched. Will rewatch again now that I've recorded it off of BBC America.

Date: 2009-09-02 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com
I also wonder if that's why George!Wolf stopped trying to go after Nina. I wondered when they were eye to eye through the door if the wolf recognized that she was now infected, too -- and therefore not prey but mate. I realize that the other characters probably thought it was some fanciful romantic thing that George!Wolf recognized George's girlfriend but I think it was more sinister than that.

Date: 2009-09-01 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
I'd have to rewatch. Did he scratch her? I didn't see that, but it's certainly possible.

Ooh. That's way worse. Poor George.

Date: 2009-09-01 05:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
Sookie has the dumbest plan ever. I mean, she barely got out of her house before when she was with Bill. And now she's going back in alone to get Tara. I know she wants to help her friend and all, but maybe the better thing to do would be figuring out how to kill Maryanne, not trying to get Tara again (who RAN AWAY from you, Sookie).

I don't get the Eric love. I like him fine. I think he's cool, even. But as for how he's the most amazingest vampire ever, no. Also, I don't see how Eric forcing a mystical bond on Sookie is just so romantic and squee worthy.

Date: 2009-09-01 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Seriously. Couldn't she and Lafayette have called Jason and Andy and their search for fire arms first. Also, she knows that Sam is free. Couldn't she ask for some fly spying before she walked in?

And, yeah. Eric is good looking and smarter than most of the other vamps we've seen. But we really haven't been presented with a fully rounded character on the show so... I mean he's pretty and cool. But there should be more, no?

Date: 2009-09-02 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com
The bond is definitely problematic for me in terms of how it was presented. Bill gave Sookie his blood to save her life (and then we got the erotic dreams, the bond, etc. between them). Eric tricked Sookie into taking his blood. It just doesn't play well. It makes Bill/Sookie look noble and destined and chosen while Eric/Sookie looks manipulative and nonconsensual.

Date: 2009-09-02 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Eric/Sookie looks manipulative and nonconsensual

Yes. This. Made infinitely more problematic by Sookie's conversation with Lafayette when he revealed some of the same issues, because, Lafayette was tortured! Lafayette has PTSD. Lafayette is clearly traumatized by his knowledge of Eric and if he is fantasizing of Eric, it leaves open many, many questions about lack of consent because, while I can see Lafayette having once fantasized about Eric (had he known him), Lafayette has genuine trauma and post-traumatic stress over having been tortured for weeks, so I don't see Lafayette fantasizing about Eric in a pure, light and fluffy way! If, after having tasted his blood, Sookie is doing the same...

I just don't like this set-up. They could have done it another way.

Date: 2009-09-02 09:13 am (UTC)
silverusagi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverusagi
Sookie's, well, lust for Bill may indeed be because he gave her his blood, as I see those in the Eric camp pointing out. But Bill DID give it to her to save her life, because she helped him. The rest, as you say, follows. Also, she did seem into him before the blood was given, in the way that you're into someone you meet in a bar. The Eric blood, I don't like how it was presented. If they're going to go with a love triangle, it would have made much more sense for Eric to give her his blood after she was injured by Maryanne. The way they're doing it does make it manipulative and tricky, and even though I like Eric, I'm not rooting for Eric/Sookie. Also, it seems forced by the writers. Sure, we've gotten Eric/Sookie snarkiness, but the only way they can play up the romance angle is in dreams. Sookie hates Eric, and Eric (for some unknown reason) just wants her (as Shipperx said, we really don't see any of his motivations for anything).

Date: 2009-09-02 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com
ITA. Also probelmatic IMHO is the first sex dream where Lorena showed up at the end while Sookie kept saying that she loved Bill. It sets up a dynamic of Lorena/Bill = Sookie/Eric as comparable nonconsensual pairings vs. the OTP of Bill/Sookie.

Personally, I don't see how they ever roll out Sookie/Eric as a 'big romance' unless they do a major overhaul. Given the signs, I don't think Ball is going in that direction. I think Eric is a bump in Bill/Sookie's road.

I like Eric but I'd rather see him with someone who isn't as easily manipulated as Sookie.

Date: 2009-09-02 11:04 pm (UTC)
silverusagi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverusagi
Also, Eric calling in Lorena to keep Bill away from Sookie--not cool. I know Eric/Sookie happens in the books, but a lot of stuff happens in the books that's not happening here, and I might agree with you on the "bump on the Bill/Sookie" road idea. Because, as of now, Bill and Sookie seem fine. They've had problems, but they're committed and they seem to be in love. If they do break up, it would have to be over something worse than what's already happened to them.

Date: 2009-09-01 08:01 am (UTC)
shapinglight: (George)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
I think the ending was meant to imply that Nina realised she'd been scratched by George and knew all too well what would happen next.

Date: 2009-09-02 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
I clearly should have waited for the ep to air on BBC America instead of watching it on YouTube. The scene was small so I must have missed the scratch.

Date: 2009-09-02 01:44 pm (UTC)
shapinglight: (George)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
It happened when Nina burst into the underground room with Mitchell and Annie, just before George transformed.

Date: 2009-09-01 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petzipellepingo.livejournal.com
I was wondering about that myself because, as you said, she didn't turn during the full moon. And I don't think George would have scratched her like that so... hmm...


Am curious what will happen with Jessica and Hoyte, and yet again Hoyte's mom proved what a bitch she is.

Yes, will he now go back to Jessica for comfort because Mama Maxine really told some startling things to him. Also hmm...

Date: 2009-09-02 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
But will Jessica take Hoyte back or feel like he'll never really accept her (and how sad is it that I care more about this second? Third tier(?) characters than the main ones.

And Re: BH, was there an obvious scratching in the scene with George or not? Guess I'll have to re-watch the episode.

Date: 2009-09-01 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
George didn't turn immediately on being attacked; he was just injured. He turned on the next full moon.

Date: 2009-09-02 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
But did George scratch her? I watched on YouTube so I guess the screen was small. I didn't see the scratch. I thought it looked like a scar. Will have to rewatch the ep now that I've recorded off BBC America.

Date: 2009-09-02 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com
George scratched her when she burst into the room during transformation. We don't know yet but I think it's likely given that she was questioning him about how he became one.

Joan's husband is a jerk. I feel so bad for her. I think she's got so much going for her and she just gets used by every man she encounters. Roger was shocking. I'm glad Don thinks he's a total creep for dumping his wife for the secretary (and the new secretary to boot!). I feel bad for Don's kids. They have a mostly absent father and a rather nasty mother.

ITA re: Eric. I haven't read the books either. Yeah, he's sexy and funny. But he's also a master manipulator and doesn't seem to really FEEL anything. The only time I felt I was getting to know him was in the Godric episodes -- and now Godric is gone. Bill may be hiding a bazillion stupid things from Sookie that will bite him in the ass but at least I can tell that he's passionately in love with Sookie. Eric doesn't seem to care about much of anything. By the time Ball gets around to changing that, I may not care very much because I may be invested in other characters at that point.

Date: 2009-09-02 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
I missed the scratching. I was watching on YouTube so I'll blame that miss on the screen being so small.

On Mad Men, I totally want Joan to leave her husband and get promoted to the temp job she had reading TV scripts. *sigh* But that totally isn't going to happen. Joan is trapped in her age. I do still hope she divorces the creep, but where I once sort of liked the Roger/Joan pairing, Joan totally deserves better than Roger. And, I think that Don's kids are going to have problems, especially the girl. Betty actually seems to see her daughter as a rival for Don and that's not good. That poor little girl is already developing issues that I already blame her parents for (even though I think Don does actually love her. I just don't think he knows how to be a particularly good father. On the other hand, that little girl adores him... which sort of isn't a good thing because you know she's going to grow up looking for elusive partners... just like Dad.)

And, yes, Godric presented an opportunity for Eric but the primary problem with Eric is that his interactions with just about everyone else (except possibly Pam) seem mostly fake. He's going through motions and keeping his motivations -- whatever they may be -- to himself, which after a while doesn't make a character mysterious, it just makes them undeveloped. And, while I may not be a big Bill/Sookie fan, I do feel that he actually does have genuine feelings for her and her him. I'm far from believing that re: Eric/Sookie at this point in time. And I don't think that feeling is going to change any time soon as I don't think it's going to suddenly happen in the season finale.

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