BtVS Season 8 Comics

[shipperx]

Okay, have read about the current issue and Allie wankage du jour.

Re: the state of the Whedonverse, let me quote AtS's Gunn:

"Don't tell us there's no where to go but up because the truth is there's always more down."

::Reads quote::

Nods. Sums up the comics nicely.

Comments

[menomegirl.livejournal.com]

It does sum it up.

*nods*

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I don't even know what else to say.

[fenderlove.livejournal.com]

*stares at quote for a while* You know, that actually makes me feel strangely happy because it reminds me of something one of my graphic design professors used to say. He used to say, "If you know you're going to fail, be excessive about it. I mean, wretchedly excessive about it, so that you can be an example to others of what NOT to do." :D

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Hee! I think Joss is actually following your professor's advise. Because if this isn't wrechedly excessive, what would be?

[fenderlove.livejournal.com]

I have no idea at this point... I guess maybe if Buffy and Angel's "sonic boom" causes a magical mystical baby to be conceived... in Dawn's uterus. Dun dun duuuuuuuun!!! :D

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Is it a penguin? *snerk*

Seriously, I'm now beginning to cringe. Is he really this hacktastic?

[fenderlove.livejournal.com]

Yes, yes, it is. And the penguin will chomp its way through Dawn's abdominal cavity... and it'll sing... and it'll bite Dawn and turn her into a vampire... and then Spike will imprint on the singing penguin, and they will have their own little vampling-pengy babies.

[hazel75.livejournal.com]

No, not chomp, it'll be another c-section a la Twilight.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

It's true special starcrossed vampire love, damnit! >:)

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Hee! Someone knows their Twilight.

And now the picture in my head is Spike as the sweet-looking wolf saying "whut-up?"

[fenderlove.livejournal.com]

I know it only to the extent that I can mock it. :D

That commercial is hilarious. Love it. XD

[wildrider.livejournal.com]

That's long been my all-time favorite quote from either BtVS or AtS...

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

It's certainly one of the most easily quotable quotes!

[rahirah]

I don't see how this can be anything but down... but this is Joss, and he thought turning Dawn into a giant was a good idea...

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Well, you have to give Whedon credit for one thing. The Whedonverse now utterly defies parody. It's its own parody!

[jerrymcl89.livejournal.com]

I've enjoyed a lot of the wackier things Joss has done in this series, including the Dawn stuff. There's something to be said for doing things in comics that will only work in comics. But I don't see any real merit in this development. It's like he actually wants to make BtVS a ripoff of Twilight (They're so in love they glow!).

[rahirah]

I hope it turns out that there's a twist to it. But I'm not holding my breath.

[jerrymcl89.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I consider a twist possible, but not really likely. If that is what's in store, I think Joss hasn't adjusted to the business model where people have to consciously decide to pay for each chapter of his work, unlike TV.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

At this point, I'm glad I threw in the towel and declared crack!fic after the first edition!

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

If this is seriously where he intends to leave things...

Well, good thing I didn't have any expectations left of him that he could dash.

I remember walking out of Alien Resurrection wondering, good grief who wrote that pointless train wreck that ruined the series?

And history is prelude...

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I have no clue what he's doing or what he hopes to accomplish.

The thing that bothers me is that neither characterization nor show history has much bearing on any of it. Everything is disposable in order to accomplish... whatever it is that Joss wants to accomplish. And what that may be beats the hell out of me.

[ms-scarletibis.livejournal.com]

Perhaps it'll end up being some sort of crazy dream in the end?

Eh, I've got nothing.

[eilowyn.livejournal.com]

Everything is disposable in order to accomplish... whatever it is that Joss wants to accomplish.

Which is why I may be leaving the Church of Joss and converting to Team Darlton. Because the comics have become inexcusable.

[ms-scarletibis.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry...Darlton?

At any rate, the more I hear about the comics and their atrociousness, the more I become convinced that the Church of Joss wasn't really Joss at all, but a staff of a few hella strong writers. Like Espenson.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

squish-name for the headwriting team of Lost.

I'm unwilling to commit, however. We shall wait and see how LOST ends. I do know that right now Joss is many, many rungs beneath Being Human's scribe, Toby Whithouse, however.

Re: Joss, it's true. I'm beginning to wonder if the great and powerful Oz is really just the screw-up behind the curtain.

[ms-scarletibis.livejournal.com]

Joss, it's true. I'm beginning to wonder if the great and powerful Oz is really just the screw-up behind the curtain.

That'd make one intriguing manip...

Or maybe that's just me :P

[hazel75.livejournal.com]

I keep thinking this is the guy who re-wrote the ending of Beneath You, really?? this guy??.

But then I remember that he's also the guy who signed off on the AR as a plot-device.

[sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com]

...and the guy who stuck the Sparmony desk-hump into "Destiny" because he thought it'd be cute and funny and didn't mind that it'd make Spike act out of character.

[hazel75.livejournal.com]

Dude, all I can think is "Fuck you, Joss, fuck you a lot." And I don't read the comics.

I'm feeling more bitter than I was about the Colts' loss in the Superbowl. And I was pretty bitter about that.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Well, he likes poking fandom with sticks and provoking outrage. That's why my coping mechanism tends toward pointing and laughing at what is now wholly ludicrous and laughable.

[silverusagi]

Well, he likes poking fandom with sticks and provoking outrage.

This. It's one thing to tell the story you want to tell, no matter what the fans think; it's another to continually annoy them on purpose (and have your story suffer at the same time).

[paratti.livejournal.com]

Word.

Clings to Toby and the Being Human writers.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Being Human was outstanding this year. Complicated and adult. It makes these comics look as silly, juvenile, ridiculous... as they actually are!

[rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com]

Ok, why is it on the VERY DAY that I dusted off my old Buffy fanfic to give some thought to finishing it, I read these spoilers? And even after all these years, I feel ill for poor Spike.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Just consider the comics as some really bad!fic crack!fic (because I defy anyone to prove otherwise).

True. Poor Spike. But... yeah.

Fanfic (not by Joss). It's a good thing. I can love the characters... if I just pay no attention to the prof crack!fic being published by IDW.

[rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com]

When I read the info, I found myself with all these questions, trying to make sense of the insanity. Then I told myself to slowly back away from the keyboard...

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

:(

Poor Spike indeed.

However, really, the comics are crack!fic. I defy anyone to come up with explaining the utter weirdness of it in a redeemable way. It's Joss getting his jollies by taking fans on a ride of crack.

Stick with fanfic. At this point, I think even badfic probably has more actual care taken with it than the mindless dreck that Joss is currently publishing with IDW.